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    Re: China completes stealth fighter prototype

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    The Chinese have yet to develop an effective jet engine.
    You can buy jet engines....are you talking about a low IR signature?
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    Re: China completes stealth fighter prototype

    Billions spent on measures and countermeasures, and the race continues. Billions more will be spent by many nations, and eventually, the perfect airplane, which is completely undetectable by radar, will be deployed. As a matter of fact, this technology has been around for many years. Here it is:

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    Re: China completes stealth fighter prototype

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Exactly my point....Are we sure that the Chinese didn't get some information from someone in the US chain? I mean hell, we got privates giving thousands of classified documents to Aussie anarchists, what else is bound to drop? Remember how Clinton gave nuke tech to NK?
    Why do you think the only way they could accomplish something is if they stole it from us or recieved it from us somehow? They are not stupid people and China has a large amount of resource with a fair deal of know how.

    But even with all that they have build a single prototype of a stealth figther, something we did in ****ing 1990. So everyone please calm down the Chinese by the measure of stealth fighter development are TWENTY YEARS behind the United States. That something we couldnt' even say about the USSR for many of their weapon technologies.

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    Re: China completes stealth fighter prototype

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Exactly my point....Are we sure that the Chinese didn't get some information from someone in the US chain? I mean hell, we got privates giving thousands of classified documents to Aussie anarchists, what else is bound to drop? Remember how Clinton gave nuke tech to NK?


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    That private has access only to unclassified and confidential information. Nothing of the utmost worry but still very much a cause for concern.

    If he was leaking top-secret info then that would be a major problem. But only personnel of large importance have access to large amounts of that data.
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    Re: China completes stealth fighter prototype

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Billions spent on measures and countermeasures, and the race continues. Billions more will be spent by many nations, and eventually, the perfect airplane, which is completely undetectable by radar, will be deployed. As a matter of fact, this technology has been around for many years. Here it is:
    Actally radar can pick that up just fine.
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    Re: China completes stealth fighter prototype

    Begin reading at: China's New Stealth Fighter Is Revealed - WSJ.com

    "Several experts said the prototype's body appeared to borrow from the F-22 and other U.S. stealth aircraft, but they couldn't tell from the photographs how advanced it was in terms of avionics, composite materials or other key aspects of stealth technology.

    They said that China was probably several years behind Russia, whose first stealth fighter, the Sukhoi T-50, made its first flight in January 2010, but that Beijing was catching up faster than expected.

    The U.S. cut funding for the F-22 in 2009 in favor of the F-35, a smaller, cheaper stealth fighter that made its first test flight in 2006 and is expected to be fully deployed by around 2014. The F-22 has mainly been used for exercises and operations around U.S. airspace, but some have been deployed to Guam and Okinawa to help maintain the U.S. security umbrella in the Asia-Pacific region.

    The Chinese prototype looks like it has "the potential to be a competitor with the F-22 and to be decisively superior to the F-35," said Mr. Fisher. The J-20 has two engines, like the F-22, and is about the same size, while the F-35 is smaller and has only one engine.
    China's stealth-fighter program has implications also for Japan, which is considering buying F-35s, and for India, which last month firmed up a deal with Russia to jointly develop and manufacture a stealth fighter."

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    Re: China completes stealth fighter prototype

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Begin reading at: China's New Stealth Fighter Is Revealed - WSJ.com

    "Several experts said the prototype's body appeared to borrow from the F-22 and other U.S. stealth aircraft, but they couldn't tell from the photographs how advanced it was in terms of avionics, composite materials or other key aspects of stealth technology.

    They said that China was probably several years behind Russia, whose first stealth fighter, the Sukhoi T-50, made its first flight in January 2010, but that Beijing was catching up faster than expected.

    The U.S. cut funding for the F-22 in 2009 in favor of the F-35, a smaller, cheaper stealth fighter that made its first test flight in 2006 and is expected to be fully deployed by around 2014. The F-22 has mainly been used for exercises and operations around U.S. airspace, but some have been deployed to Guam and Okinawa to help maintain the U.S. security umbrella in the Asia-Pacific region.

    The Chinese prototype looks like it has "the potential to be a competitor with the F-22 and to be decisively superior to the F-35," said Mr. Fisher. The J-20 has two engines, like the F-22, and is about the same size, while the F-35 is smaller and has only one engine.
    China's stealth-fighter program has implications also for Japan, which is considering buying F-35s, and for India, which last month firmed up a deal with Russia to jointly develop and manufacture a stealth fighter."
    somthing I found interesting:

    Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    An August 2008 RAND study showed that, as a land based aircraft, the F-22 would have little impact on a future conflict with China over Taiwan as its nearby bases would be shutdown by MRBMs and farther bases would require the assistance of tanker aircraft that would be quickly lost.[56] The 2010 report by the United States-China Economic and Security Review Commission indicated that the MRBM threat to American airbases had dramatically increased in just the last few years.
    http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...t_Briefing.pdf
    Chinese Missiles Could Close U.S. Bases in Attack, Report Says - BusinessWeek

    Keep in mind the f-22 is awesome its just a Taiwanese conflict is a crap shoot for US air power since few bases are close by and China is so close.
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    Re: China completes stealth fighter prototype

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    ....Keep in mind the f-22 is awesome its just a Taiwanese conflict is a crap shoot for US air power since few bases are close by and China is so close.
    I remember when the USN could said right up to the Chinese coast and defend the ROC islands of Quemoy and Matsu. But that was a long time ago. Here's an article you might find interesting about the Chinese missile strategy:
    http://www.usnwc.edu/getattachment/6...--Naval-Presen

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    Re: China completes stealth fighter prototype

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Chinese Missiles Could Close U.S. Bases in Attack, Report Says - BusinessWeek

    Keep in mind the f-22 is awesome its just a Taiwanese conflict is a crap shoot for US air power since few bases are close by and China is so close.
    And to think the Obama administration won't release the sale of fighter jets and other defenses Taiwan's government wants to PURCHASEf for its own defense...
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    Re: China completes stealth fighter prototype

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    And to think the Obama administration won't release the sale of fighter jets and other defenses Taiwan's government wants to PURCHASEf for its own defense...
    Having f-22s in Taiwan would be sensless since its predicted that the almost all planes would be destroyed or immobolized due to chinese missles and bombing. The few that would survive would mainly be the ones in the air.
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