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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

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    You mean by posting actual numbers? The state of MA shows costs rising and MA being one of the highest healthcare cost states in the nation. Why is the state lying?
    Who said the state is lying? Are they arguing for repeal? Are doctors in favor of repeal? Read what is written.

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyroh View Post
    this is the interesting chicken and egg situation of our time. would radical islam and rogue nations like iran and north korea care about us at all if we didn't have thousands of over seas bases in 90 nations around the world? how would you react if our government allowed saudi arabia to have an air base in our country? what if iran and north korea had thousands of troops in canada and mexico, with multiple carrier groups just off shore? there's always gonna be a few madmen, but could they recruit followers if we didn't have a global defense network that is being used around the world to keep tyrannical regimes in power? suddenly it appears that this global defense network is actually the cause of and solution to all of government's troubles. as a small government conservative you can't seriously support this.
    As stated, I don't believe that the military should be removed from making cuts to reduce the size of govt. but the number one responsibility assigned to the govt. is defense. Right now defense constitutes 1/6 of the budget and that is where the real crime lies. Does that mean that defense should be increased, no, that means that the budget needs to be cut starting with entitlement programs and get the total size down.

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Who said the state is lying? Are they arguing for repeal? Are doctors in favor of repeal? Read what is written.
    You are the one that raised the source as the issue so when I give you the actual numbers you divert as usual. Your argument regarding either cost or access doesn't hold up. Costs in MA are rising and although people have access they cannot get an appointment therefore ER usage is skyrocketing and MA has more doctors per capita than any other state in the nation. Keey that head buried in the sand.

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Found this on your site as well conservative:

    Yesterday, the Division released its 2010 Massachusetts Household Insurance Survey results, showing that not only does Massachusetts continue to have the highest health insurance coverage rate in the nation, but that our state has seen gains even through an economic recession.

    This year, more than 98 percent of Massachusetts residents have health insurance. These results are astonishing.

    Some of the most exciting news is related to children and elderly adults, as the survey found that virtually all Massachusetts children have health insurance (99.8 percent) and nearly all elderly adults are covered (99.6 percent).

    Health Reform: A Success Story

    Paying more for more is better than paying more for less. Much of the nation has been paying more for less. They've managed to improve to paying more for more. With a little work, they may well move to paying less for more. Let's keep watch together.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I present the doctors themselves speaking. They don't seem to be with you one this.
    Doctors have all the business they can handle and more, problem is the people cannot get access due to the fact that no matter that MA has the highest number of doctors per capita in the nation that isn't enough nor are there enough hours in the day to handle the damand thus ER's are picking up the slack. Costs are rising and that doesn't directly affect doctors in MA but it does affect the taxpayers which includes doctors.

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Found this on your site as well conservative:

    Yesterday, the Division released its 2010 Massachusetts Household Insurance Survey results, showing that not only does Massachusetts continue to have the highest health insurance coverage rate in the nation, but that our state has seen gains even through an economic recession.

    This year, more than 98 percent of Massachusetts residents have health insurance. These results are astonishing.

    Some of the most exciting news is related to children and elderly adults, as the survey found that virtually all Massachusetts children have health insurance (99.8 percent) and nearly all elderly adults are covered (99.6 percent).

    Health Reform: A Success Story

    Paying more for more is better than paying more for less. Much of the nation has been paying more for less. They've managed to improve to paying more for more. With a little work, they may well move to paying less for more. Let's keep watch together.
    Right and you conveniently left out the statement which pointed out that access isn't worth a lot if you cannot get into a doctor's office. people are paying for the healthcare and not getting the service.

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be catastrophic | Reuters

    Congress has raised the debt ceiling six times in the last three years [/B]to keep pace with our deteriorating financial situation.

    The GOP wants to end this practice, and the Obama administration considers that possibly catastrophic. Typical.
    Where was the Republican opposition, during Reagan's tenure, when the National debt tripled and the income tax for the top earners dropped from 70 t0 39.5 percent?

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Right and you conveniently left out the statement which pointed out that access isn't worth a lot if you cannot get into a doctor's office. people are paying for the healthcare and not getting the service.
    No, I said doctors disagree with you that they can't get into a doctor's office. They favor this plan by a wide margin, and I linked that for you. People are getting service. You simply have it wrong. That's why the Commonwealth link you have show they are happy with the service, but concerned about the cost. Paying more, but getting more.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Where was the Republican opposition, during Reagan's tenure, when the National debt tripled and the income tax for the top earners dropped from 70 t0 39.5 percent?

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    National Debt went from 900 billion to 2.6 trillion with Reagan and Congress adding 1.7 trillion to the debt. Today that debt is 14.5 trillion of which Obama has added 3.5 trillion in 2 years. I would take a 2.6 trillion debt in a heartbeat over what we have plus the policies that were in place at the time.

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Ricksfolly: Reagan and his fellow Republicans famously made a deal with the Democratic Congress over that issue; Reagan agreed to raise taxes if Congress agreed to cut spending $3 for every $1 of increased taxes that Reagan agreed to. Reagan got played for a sucker, and agreed to raise taxes before Congress cut the spending, so the spending cuts just never came.

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