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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

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    Whether it is fixed or not in Indiana isn't for you to decide, it is up to the people of Indiana which went back to a red state in November. Mitch Daniels the Governor of Indiana implemented a market based healthcare solution and it is working as evidenced by the support in the state for the program and the Governor. I know how hard this is for your ego to hear that people disagree with you with regards to Obamacare but again it is a state and local issue, not a Federal issue no matter how many charts and graphs you post. The majority in this country are opposed to Obamacare and in particular the individual mandate. That is something you just have to learn to accept.
    On a federal level, we are all part of the decisions made. If the Feds have no role here, the courts will decide. I think they do have a role, and states have been rather ineffective on the whole in tackling this issue. But, as of yet, I still say hawaii has doen the best job, and seeing it on a national level might be a worth a try.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

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    On a federal level, we are all part of the decisions made. If the Feds have no role here, the courts will decide. I think they do have a role, and states have been rather ineffective on the whole in tackling this issue. But, as of yet, I still say hawaii has doen the best job, and seeing it on a national level might be a worth a try.
    Why do you have such faith in this Administration that has yet to tell the truth on any issue being successful in implementing Obamacare cost effectively and with improved access? Why would you support a Federal Role in a state responsibility issue? If Hawaii can do it why can't your state?

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Is something paid for by the state private?
    an account funded from the individual's paycheck and controlled by him or her?

    but it "sounds like a universal insurer" to the kinda folks who look to wik for "comparison and overview"

    LOL!

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

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    states have been rather ineffective on the whole in tackling this issue
    obamacare greatly exacerbates things, millions newly enrolled into medicaid "without providing the money to pay for them"

    Governors balk over what healthcare bill will cost states - The Boston Globe

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

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    Why do you have such faith in this Administration that has yet to tell the truth on any issue being successful in implementing Obamacare cost effectively and with improved access? Why would you support a Federal Role in a state responsibility issue? If Hawaii can do it why can't your state?
    Side stepping again? I said nothing about having faith in anyone.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

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    Side stepping again? I said nothing about having faith in anyone.
    Who do you propose run the single payer system that you support if not the Federal Govt?

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

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    Who do you propose run the single payer system that you support if not the Federal Govt?
    If you look at single payer systems, it can be done by the government. Or a single private enity. Either is fine. Both would require serious thought and oversight.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If you look at single payer systems, it can be done by the government. Or a single private enity. Either is fine. Both would require serious thought and oversight.
    So you think a healthcare program for 308 million people will be run by a private entity?

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

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    Side stepping again?
    LOL!

    look who's talking

    how do you expand medicare by millions of new enrollees while simultaneously cutting its already overstrained funding by half a trillion dollars?

    Democrats win $400B in Medicare cuts - Washington Times

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

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    So you think a healthcare program for 308 million people will be run by a private entity?
    If you were around and paying attention before Clinton was elected, Blue Cross suggested that they be the private enitity to do just that. It's certainly possible, if unliely.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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