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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, the solution, is for government to pass legislation that caused insurance rates to go even higher and then force people to buy health insurance?

    Yeah! I'm pumped!
    Insurance premiums were not increasing prior to Obamacare.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    the raison d'etre for obamacare was to reverse the cost trajectory

    otherwise, why so radically redraw 1/6 of the united states economy?

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    the raison d'etre for obamacare was to reverse the cost trajectory

    otherwise, why so radically redraw 1/6 of the united states economy?
    Because more than half of all bankruptcies filed in the United States are medical related. I believe the President said it best, "the last thing you should be worried about is whether you’re going to go broke or make your parents broke just because you get sick.".
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Because more than half of all bankruptcies filed in the United States are medical related. I believe the President said it best, "the last thing you should be worried about is whether you’re going to go broke or make your parents broke just because you get sick.".
    Where did you get that information and how many of those people had an opportunity to have healthcare but chose not to participate or failed to sign up for available services? As I recall the number of individuals who declared bankruptcy was around 1.6 million so 800,000 or so declared bankruptcy because of medical expenses. No one knows how many of those 800,000 had access to insurance but chose not to participate. Doesn't stop you from using that number however to promote your cause. how any libertarian can support a massive govt. program like this healthcare program is beyond comprehension.

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    sebelius exempts 200+ toobigs (including seiu locals) from requirement to eliminate annual limits

    http://www.hhs.gov/ociio/regulations...or_waiver.html
    Last edited by The Prof; 01-09-11 at 03:58 PM.

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Where did you get that information and how many of those people had an opportunity to have healthcare but chose not to participate or failed to sign up for available services? As I recall the number of individuals who declared bankruptcy was around 1.6 million so 800,000 or so declared bankruptcy because of medical expenses. No one knows how many of those 800,000 had access to insurance but chose not to participate. Doesn't stop you from using that number however to promote your cause. how any libertarian can support a massive govt. program like this healthcare program is beyond comprehension.
    Again, the President said it masterfully.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Something to chew on:

    Illness or medical bills contributed to 62.1% of all personal bankruptcies in 2007, with 57.1% of the entire sample (92% of medical bankruptcies) having high medical bills. Among recent homeowners (as compared to all debtors) who were medically bankrupt, 34.7% had medical bills that exceeded either $5000, or more than 10% of annual family income.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Again, the President said it masterfully.
    LOL, the President says a lot of things "masterfully", too bad the results never match the rhetoric. Doesn't stop the cult followers however from swooning and fainting over the brilliance of the rhetoric. Wonder when the Obama cult will stop buying the rhetoric and actually verify the accuracy of that rhetoric?

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    senator barack obama, jan 13, 2006: raising the debt ceiling is "a sign of leadership failure"

    Dems, GOP jockey over debt ceiling - Jonathan Allen and Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com
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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    How about answering the question, how many of those that filed bankruptcy chose not to participate in insurance programs available to them? In a country of 308 million what percentage is 800k? You would create a Federal Monstrosity to cover 800K?

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