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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Do you have any proof and facts and evidence to support ths statement of yours, Hazlnut?
    Tons and tons...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/search...earchid=312680

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I already have. When he told that woman that maybe her 100 + year old gramdma would be better off taking a pain pill, what do you believe he was talking about?


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    You said


    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, you could take his own words when he speaks of giving grandma a pill for pain rather than that expensive other treatment, or you could view any number of his Czar's statements on the matter, including, but not limited to Dr. Emmanuel's book on the matter.

    Plan, maybe not in hard fast terms, but as an unwritten matter, absolutely.




    Well, as the saying goes....'Some men are wise, some men are otherwise.'


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    He was talking about getting rid of unnecessary practices and tests that studies show have no health value whatsoever. He said nothing about killing her.
    "And in the end, we were all just humans, drunk on the idea that love, only love, could heal our brokenness."

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Now there is the right answer, nothing shows up as a match when you click in the link. You have offered nothing but your own opinions.

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    j-mac doesn't believe in proof and facts and evidence.... much too time consuming.

    running one's mouth, regurgitating Glenn Beck talking points is easier. Look at his hero, Sarah Palin.

    Ah Hazlnut, Beck must really get under your skin.... I think that's great. Anyway, here is something I am sure that if you did read it, you ignored it. And probably will continue to ignore anything that doesn't line up with your view on the matter.

    Oh, and this is open to the other libs too, just be sure to remove the blinders before reading.

    Would the healthcare reform legislation that President Obama plans to sign into law on Tuesday affect seniors in any direct way?

    The short answer is “yes.”


    Healthcare 101: What the bill means to you

    The longer answer is that some seniors may lose Medicare benefits they now enjoy. Many others will gain from an enhancement of Medicare’s prescription-drug program.

    Here are some specifics on these changes:

    Medicare cuts

    Under the healthcare reform bill, government payments to Medicare Advantage – plans that are run by private insurers such as Humana and are an alternative to traditional Medicare – will be cut by $132 billion over 10 years. (Those plans currently get somewhat more per person from the government than traditional Medicare does.)

    Medicare Advantage plans often offer extra benefits that seniors in traditional Medicare don’t get. It is possible that these extras will be dropped as Medicare Advantage plans feel a budget squeeze.

    In most areas of the United States, this reduction will be phased in over three years, beginning in 2011, although in some places it will take longer.

    The bill does not contain cuts to traditional Medicare benefits. However, Medicare payments for home healthcare would be reduced by $40 billion between now and 2019. And certain payments to hospitals would be cut by $22 billion over that same period.

    Health care reform bill 101: What does it mean for seniors? - CSMonitor.com

    I am positive that will make seniors healthier.....Aren't you?


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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ah Hazlnut, Beck must really get under your skin.... I think that's great. Anyway, here is something I am sure that if you did read it, you ignored it. And probably will continue to ignore anything that doesn't line up with your view on the matter.

    Oh, and this is open to the other libs too, just be sure to remove the blinders before reading.




    I am positive that will make seniors healthier.....Aren't you?


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    Well he did collude with the insurance industry in making his healthcare bill, but you still have not proved that Obama wants to kill people, only that he wants to give them up to the insurance industry's mercy.
    "And in the end, we were all just humans, drunk on the idea that love, only love, could heal our brokenness."

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Now there is the right answer, nothing shows up as a match when you click in the link. You have offered nothing but your own opinions.
    Try again, it's full of empty talking points, impotent rage, and teabagger nonsense.

    Not one link to proof or facts to back up the b.s.

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Well he did collude with the insurance industry in making his healthcare bill, but you still have not proved that Obama wants to kill people, only that he wants to give them up to the insurance industry's mercy.

    That must really upset you, knowing that Obama is siding with big business?


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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Try again, it's full of empty talking points, impotent rage, and teabagger nonsense.

    Not one link to proof or facts to back up the b.s.
    I am not sure DP searches link correctly. None the less, the response to that post was so damn creative
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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That must really upset you, knowing that Obama is siding with big business?


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    I expected it. I am not upset. He is just, in Rick Rozzoff's words, "the latest rotating imperator of the first global empire."
    "And in the end, we were all just humans, drunk on the idea that love, only love, could heal our brokenness."

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    Re: Obama aide: Debt limit fight could be "catastrophic"

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Try again, it's full of empty talking points, impotent rage, and teabagger nonsense.

    Not one link to proof or facts to back up the b.s.
    Why present facts to a liberal when opinions and out right jealousy serves you so well. Got it, govt. power when controlled by a liberal good, govt. power that focuses on individual responsibility bad. My facts are impeccable, suggest you research them. Notice you have never provided specifics that you believe to be empty talking points, impotent rage, and teabagger nonsense. BEA.gov, BLS.gov, and the U.S. Treasury are non partisan sites that obviously get in the way of your rage, talking opinions, and liberal nonsense.

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