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    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    The deal includes an extension of unemployment insurance and middle-class tax credits, a 2-percentage-point decrease in payroll taxes employees pay in 2011 (which the president said Tuesday would "add about $1,000 to the take-home pay of the average family"), and an estate-tax exemption up to $5 million.

    Obama's Tax Cut Deal: So Much For Deficit Reduction : NPR


    Yeah thats not a tax cut is it nope no way
    Right, paying people to not work is the liberal mantra, brilliant? That is a tax cut? 2% cut in the payroll taxes cuts SS, which is a retirement supplement, who is going to pick up the slack? The take home pay that is taken out of SS isn't an income tax cut.

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    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Right, paying people to not work is the liberal mantra, brilliant? That is a tax cut? 2% cut in the payroll taxes cuts SS, which is a retirement supplement, who is going to pick up the slack? The take home pay that is taken out of SS isn't an income tax cut.

    So now you do not support cutting taxes?

    Which way will the wind blow next, lol

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    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    The deal includes an extension of unemployment insurance and middle-class tax credits, a 2-percentage-point decrease in payroll taxes employees pay in 2011 (which the president said Tuesday would "add about $1,000 to the take-home pay of the average family"), and an estate-tax exemption up to $5 million.

    Obama's Tax Cut Deal: So Much For Deficit Reduction : NPR

    Yeah thats not a tax cut is it nope no way

    No, it's a cut, but a temporary one designed to further weaken SS. My thought is that the quicker Obama, and his group can destroy this country, and put in place their own vision of Social order, then that's what they do. It is destructive without cuts in spending, do we have your commitment to call for that as well?


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    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So now you do not support cutting taxes?

    Which way will the wind blow next, lol
    I call a tax cut cutting taxes for people who pay taxes, not giving welfare to those who don't

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    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I call a tax cut cutting taxes for people who pay taxes, not giving welfare to those who don't
    So around and around we go on the merry go-round:
    merry-go-round-%20first%20pull.jpg

    So now I guess you are going to say employees don't pay taxes eh?

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    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    QUOTE Conservative

    Until now no one had the opportunity to hear what the Republicans were going to do.
    Wonder why that was, seeing as they had two years to get their message out?


    If the GOP House makes reductions in the deficit who is going to get credit for it in your world?

    first they have to come up with a plan...to date they have nothing besides hanging a lame a** tag "The Repealing the Job-Killing Health Care Law Act "on a bill.

    You choose to believe what you are told but ignore the actual facts.
    what facts have i ignored?


    Repealing Obamacare will cut spending and impact the deficit.
    The last number i heard that it would save $219 billion.Single payer would save even more.

    There is no question that the deficit will be cut, the question is who will you give credit to for that cut?
    I will give credit to the President that is in the office when it happens. Much like Regain getting credit for the collapse of communism in the old soviet union. See, that wasn’t as hard as you made it to be now was it?
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    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Wonder why that was, seeing as they had two years to get their message out?


    first they have to come up with a plan...to date they have nothing besides hanging a lame a** tag "The Repealing the Job-Killing Health Care Law Act "on a bill.

    what facts have i ignored?

    The last number i heard that it would save $219 billion.Single payer would save even more.

    I will give credit to the President that is in the office when it happens. Much like Regain getting credit for the collapse of communism in the old soviet union. See, that wasn’t as hard as you made it to be now was it?
    You have ignored the actual results of Obama, 3.5 trillion added to the debt and 4 million more unemployed since the stimulus was signed

    As for savings that a single payer would provide no country in the world let alone one as large as ours has ever had healthcare costs go down with a single payer. MA is an example of Obamacare and costs there have skyrocketed. Why would that be different nationally?

    Of course you will give Obama credit just like you gave him blame for the legislation the past two years, right?

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    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You have ignored the actual results of Obama, 3.5 trillion added to the debt and 4 million more unemployed since the stimulus was signed

    As for savings that a single payer would provide no country in the world let alone one as large as ours has ever had healthcare costs go down with a single payer. MA is an example of Obamacare and costs there have skyrocketed. Why would that be different nationally?

    Of course you will give Obama credit just like you gave him blame for the legislation the past two years, right?
    I didn’t ignore anything.. reread postnumber#182, only this time try it slowly, with your specs on. Maybe then you will get it, but I have my doubts.
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    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    I didn’t ignore anything.. reread postnumber#182, only this time try it slowly, with your specs on. Maybe then you will get it, but I have my doubts.
    Read it over and over again and it just says the same thing about you, Republican debt is bad, Democrat debt good. Stockmarket 11.8 good but stock market at 14k is bad. Do I have that right?

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    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    thank you for your honesty. That is indeed all this is really about - a shameless and blatantly selfish political charade disguised as saving the public from health care.
    Don't be confused, the majority of the public wants Obamacare to go away. Taking the senate and presidency is merely the means to make it happen.

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