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    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    So tell me, Conservative. If I find one successful business person who is liberal, will you concede that your first comment, above, was nothing more than a ridiculous hyperpartisan claim that has no basis in reality?

    Of course there are plenty of liberal business people. They sure must live a dichotomy of reality between self loathing over being successful in business, and holding the mantra that business is greed. No wonder they are always so angry.


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    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Of course, kick the can down the road... not a solution, a shirking of responsibility
    The Congress is given the responsibility to promote the general welfare of the people but not allowed to define the specific condition that the people deserve. The intent of the Constitution was for the states and local governments to provide what ever their citizens needed in the form of welfare and for the rest of their citizens to take care of themselves.

    In the 60s my home town in central Texas didn’t have a welfare office. My cousins - 7 boys and 5 girls - who lived there – because their father was too lazy to work in the west Texas oil field - - WARNING – - liberals may not want to read further - - WORKED and lived off of the land. They raised their own vegetables and caned them. They hunted the local country side for rabbits, squirrels, deer – not many deer near town in those days - . They harvested pecans from the trees on the near by creek. They picked wild berries. They worked as a group picking cotton and doing other farm work. Their dad laid around a bait shop selling minnows that the boys caught out of the creek.

    Now, every one of those boy have great work ethics. One of them owns the house that my dad sold them when we moved the second time. And he owns all of the land around the old house.

    But when the county bureaucrats learned that they could get government to give to poor people they created poor people to give it to. They built a little low cost apartment complex and invited the pregnant girls that were live with their mothers to move in for free and get free food for the baby. The girls liked not having their mothers trying to keep them from getting pregnant again and they did get pregnant again. Some of them are still trapped in those run down building and we see the same thing all over the country.

    Those poor girls would have had a chance to make something of themselves if they had not been given a live of dependence.

    I have two brothers – one is a millionaire and the other is living in a thirty year old trail house out in the woods. The second brother was going to build a nice house out there in the woods but he never got around to it. The first brother started four companies and three of them failed – costing me a lot of money – but he never stopped working day and night to succeed. When the second brother’s wife asked me for money I reminded her that I had caught her and my brother an occupation that was in great demand. But it meant going back to work in the oil field. They have three grown boys who share their work ethic so they too need jobs. As of last week the second brother has gone back to work in the oil field and is thinking that it might be a good idea to train the boys to do the same type of work. It pays $200 a day and the current boom will last for years. It is an easy job, but you do have to be out there on the rig to get the money.

    Sorry I got off on self reliance. Our country has to get back to work or we will fade into the darkness. The idea that we can drill of oil where ever the oil is, is insane.
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    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do you realize that the high ER costs are paid by the states and local communities
    yes, and it appears, contrary to the repeated promises put forth by this purblind president about how he was gonna pay for all his expansion, er costs actually INCREASE when everyone is enrolled

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    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Of course when you click on the actual details (.pdf files) your get "The system cannot find the file specified. " That pretty much sums up the Republican position... there is none.

    * Number one: let families and businesses buy health insurance across state lines

    And you get the same results you got when you allowed credit card companies to set up shop in the states with the lowest regulations


    * Number two: allow individuals, small businesses, and trade associations to pool together and acquire health insurance at lower prices, the same way large corporations and labor unions do.

    OK.... can't argue with that..

    * Number three: give states the tools to create their own innovative reforms that lower health care costs.

    Of course, kick the can down the road... not a solution, a shirking of responsibility


    * Number four: end junk lawsuits that contribute to higher health care costs by increasing the number of tests and procedures that physicians sometimes order not because they think it's good medicine, but because they are afraid of being sued.

    OK... fine for point #20... but emphasizes the shallowness of the republican thought on the matter given that malpractice insurance is less than 1/2 of 1% of total cost. If the 4th plank of your platform deals with the trivial expense, well that is pretty superficial. We certainly need superficial solutions to serious problems (but then the Reps are so good at the superficial)...
    HMMM....sorry, I got to it before but can't now.
    I found it here, but it's not easy for me to read.



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    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    And it will be bi-partisan! (Notice the NYT journOlists refrain from mentioning that bit?)

    How about the Senate? Will we see bi-partisanship there? Or more bull-ship? ROTFLOL.
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    Decisive, historic victories are game changing. I wonder... how many Dems that voted for the stink bomb called ObamaKare will vote to repeal it?

    Any guesses?

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    I do not mean to sound like a skeptic or a cynic but unless Obama and Biden die in a plane crash and there is a majority of people in both the house and senate that do not like what Obama has done then all these promises made are garbage and those new republicans know this because Obama will use his veto power. At most they are going to introduce some bills while Obama is in office and while they do not have a veto proof majority so they can claim they tried. After they use the issues to get into more power they will ignore it and use that one or two times when Obama was president to claim that they tried to do something about it and it didn't work.
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    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Im sitting here watching cspan. they are talking about the repeal and replace bill. What I find interesting is why the democrats that are speaking seem to be terrified that this simple yes or no vote ever go to the floor, even though we all know (at least I think we do) that while it may pass the house, it wont pass the senate and never even get to the president. Republicans are basically putting up the yes or no vote because its what they were elected on, its what they promised, even though most of them dont expect it to pass both houses. Its more of a ... we said we would do it, and we did, im sorry it didnt pass. My question ..or curiosity... is this. If this is the case, which by all accounts it seems to be, why are democrats so freaked out about a simple yes or no vote? They seem to be really scared of this vote.
    My question is this... Do you think that more democrats in the senate than are being admitted to will be voting to repeal and replace and that there is actually a chance it could pass both houses????

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    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I hope they also plan to allow hospitals to turn away ER patients who can't afford to pay. You know, since paying for the healthcare of others is so terrible for us. If we're not going to do it efficiently, maybe we should stop doing it.
    People really should think their positions trough. You're right of course. But too many are both unwilling to turn people away, but refuse to actually address the issue.

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    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Of course there are plenty of liberal business people. They sure must live a dichotomy of reality between self loathing over being successful in business, and holding the mantra that business is greed. No wonder they are always so angry.


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    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Of course there are plenty of liberal business people. They sure must live a dichotomy of reality between self loathing over being successful in business, and holding the mantra that business is greed. No wonder they are always so angry.


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    I really don't think Ben & Jerry of Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream fame are self loathing. They actually seem quite happy IMHO.

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    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by ObjectiveVoice
    So, what in the GOP's view changed?
    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
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