Page 10 of 22 FirstFirst ... 8910111220 ... LastLast
Results 91 to 100 of 217

Thread: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

  1. #91
    Sage
    Conservative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 02:37 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    67,250

    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Like I said....you are watching WAAAAAY too much FauxNews. Its all about playing politics....hardly a new day anywhere.
    Then of course Democrats don't play any politics at all? You seem to buy what you are told by the Obama Administration and the supportive media. Results matter, not rhetoric and the results for Obama are there for all to see. The electorate on Nov. 2 saw something different than you. Why?

  2. #92
    Sage
    Conservative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 02:37 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    67,250

    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    At least we know that you know how to type of talking point.
    My talking points are backed by actual results. You really ought to do better research or at least some research. Stop buying the rhetoric you are being told. How much is Obamacare going to cost a business? Can you name for me any prediction made by the CBO that has been accurate 10 years out since you and others point to the CBO as being accurate and the gospel?

  3. #93
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Naperville, IL
    Last Seen
    09-24-12 @ 02:14 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    11,963

    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Have yet to find a liberal who understands business or has ever run a business and invested their own money. Seems most are used to handouts thus don't understand business expenses. After getting a paycheck for years and years interesting that they don't understand what generates that paycheck.
    Of course, half the billionaires and millionaires are Dems... but that doesn't register on your fact radar.

    oops.

  4. #94
    Cheese
    Aunt Spiker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Sasnakra
    Last Seen
    09-10-16 @ 06:10 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    28,433

    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Have yet to find a liberal who understands business or has ever run a business and invested their own money. Seems most are used to handouts thus don't understand business expenses. After getting a paycheck for years and years interesting that they don't understand what generates that paycheck.
    There are differences, though - not all businesses are the same. The smaller businesses have to be more thrifty but also insert values into their business decisions more so than larger businesses.

    I've managed many - including my own - and it seemed that the larger a business got the more they only paid attention to profits. I think that's what happens when the CEO's are disconnected - physically - from their employees.
    A screaming comes across the sky.
    It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.
    Pynchon - Gravity's Rainbow

  5. #95
    Sage
    Conservative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 02:37 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    67,250

    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Of course, half the billionaires and millionaires are Dems... but that doesn't register on your fact radar.

    oops.
    How many of those millionaires and billionaires made their money by promoting the ideals of today's Democrat Party? Seems they got theirs thus the hell with everyone else trying to get ahead. Why do you want to penalize the Bill Gates wannabees while ignoring the good that Bill Gates does on his own for the general welfare? Forced redistribution is what liberals promote instead of the charitable giving that rich people actually do on their own. Promoting individual wealth creation is what this country was built on. Why do you want to destroy it?

  6. #96
    Sage
    Conservative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 02:37 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    67,250

    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    There are differences, though - not all businesses are the same. The smaller businesses have to be more thrifty but also insert values into their business decisions more so than larger businesses.

    I've managed many - including my own - and it seemed that the larger a business got the more they only paid attention to profits. I think that's what happens when the CEO's are disconnected - physically - from their employees.
    The larger the business it seems the more people that those profits have to support. Large businesses are responsible to shareholders who invested their money and are looking for a return. The stock market today still has a large number of investors who are elderly and looking for a return that supplements Social Security, which most cannot live on.

  7. #97
    Pragmatic Idealist
    upsideguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Rocky Mtn. High
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:49 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    10,068

    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Of course when you click on the actual details (.pdf files) your get "The system cannot find the file specified. " That pretty much sums up the Republican position... there is none.

    * Number one: let families and businesses buy health insurance across state lines

    And you get the same results you got when you allowed credit card companies to set up shop in the states with the lowest regulations


    * Number two: allow individuals, small businesses, and trade associations to pool together and acquire health insurance at lower prices, the same way large corporations and labor unions do.

    OK.... can't argue with that..

    * Number three: give states the tools to create their own innovative reforms that lower health care costs.

    Of course, kick the can down the road... not a solution, a shirking of responsibility


    * Number four: end junk lawsuits that contribute to higher health care costs by increasing the number of tests and procedures that physicians sometimes order not because they think it's good medicine, but because they are afraid of being sued.

    OK... fine for point #20... but emphasizes the shallowness of the republican thought on the matter given that malpractice insurance is less than 1/2 of 1% of total cost. If the 4th plank of your platform deals with the trivial expense, well that is pretty superficial. We certainly need superficial solutions to serious problems (but then the Reps are so good at the superficial)...
    Last edited by upsideguy; 01-06-11 at 01:34 AM.

  8. #98
    Sage
    cpwill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    USofA
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:16 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    57,077

    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    says the guy who calls it FauxNews?

  9. #99
    Global Moderator
    I'm a Jedi Master, Yo

    CaptainCourtesy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:22 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    152,647

    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Not surprising at all, you don't understand business. No business is going to hire someone without knowing the costs of doing so and anything that raises costs isn't acceptable. Obamacare raises the costs of hiring. Keep carrying the water for the empty suit in the WH.
    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    My talking points are backed by actual results. You really ought to do better research or at least some research. Stop buying the rhetoric you are being told. How much is Obamacare going to cost a business? Can you name for me any prediction made by the CBO that has been accurate 10 years out since you and others point to the CBO as being accurate and the gospel?
    So tell me, Conservative. If I find one successful business person who is liberal, will you concede that your first comment, above, was nothing more than a ridiculous hyperpartisan claim that has no basis in reality?
    "Never fear. Him is here" - Captain Chaos (Dom DeLuise), Cannonball Run

    ====||:-D

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

  10. #100
    Sage
    Conservative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 02:37 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    67,250

    Re: G.O.P. Newcomers Set Out to Undo Obama Victories

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Of course when you click on the actual details (.pdf files) your get "The system cannot find the file specified. " That pretty much sums up the Republican position... there is none.

    * Number one: let families and businesses buy health insurance across state lines

    And you get the same results you got when you allowed credit card companies to set up shop in the states with the lowest regulations


    * Number two: allow individuals, small businesses, and trade associations to pool together and acquire health insurance at lower prices, the same way large corporations and labor unions do.

    OK.... can't argue with that..

    * Number three: give states the tools to create their own innovative reforms that lower health care costs.

    Of course, kick the can down the road... not a solution, a shirking of responsibility


    * Number four: end junk lawsuits that contribute to higher health care costs by increasing the number of tests and procedures that physicians sometimes order not because they think it's good medicine, but because they are afraid of being sued.

    OK... fine for point #20... but emphasizes the shallowness of the republican thought on the matter given that malpractice insurance is less than 1/2 of 1% of total cost. If the 4th plank of your platform deals with the trivial expense, well that is pretty superficial. We certainly need superficial solutions to serious problems (but then the Reps are so good at the superficial)...
    So I take it you support Obamacare? You have told us what you don't like about the GOP Plan, are there things you don't like about Obamacare? Why is it the Federal Government's responsibility to provide for personal responsibility issues?

    Do you realize that the high ER costs are paid by the states and local communities and that a large part of those costs are illegal alien costs? Why should the people of your state pay the costs in my state?

Page 10 of 22 FirstFirst ... 8910111220 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •