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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Yeah, the partisan belief that judicial rulings should be based on the Constitution.
    Something no two people can agree with. Which brings us back to just approving judges who agree politically with us and the judicial system slowing more and more.
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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

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    I don't agree. Universally, both sides have been just as bad. And payback, ultimately, hurts everyone. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
    Payback is a political reality and probably the only thing that keeps politicians from feeling they can act with impunity. I do like your eye for an eye quote, even though I don't agree with it.
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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

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    Payback is a political reality and probably the only thing that keeps politicians from feeling they can act with impunity. I do like your eye for an eye quote, even though I don't agree with it.
    So our judicial system should be nothing more than another arm of the legislative branch?
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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    That's a problem since different folks view what the Constitution say differently. Terms need to be redefined based on modern times. If not, the entire Constitution should be scrapped and rewritten every 50 years or so.
    Have you ever read the Constitution, CC? It's not hard to follow. It's only when it's stretched to justify results oriented rulings that it gets complicated.
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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Have you ever read the Constitution, CC? It's not hard to follow. It's only when it's stretched to justify results oriented rulings that it gets complicated.
    I've read the Constitution. I find it writen vaguely, just as the founders intended, so it could be used for generations, and applied to situations that they had not even considered.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So our judicial system should be nothing more than another arm of the legislative branch?
    Not at all, but neither should it be a legislative body. Let's face it, sometimes the left's best hope of getting unpopular things imposed on us is to put judges on the bench that will accomplish it without the need for trying to advance legislation that can never pass.
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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Payback is a political reality and probably the only thing that keeps politicians from feeling they can act with impunity. I do like your eye for an eye quote, even though I don't agree with it.
    Just because it is a political reality does not mean that it is acceptable. Murder is a reality, That doesn't mean it's acceptable. When you start accepting things like this, you become part of the problem. Revenge solves nothing except to give someone an emotional "high".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Have you ever read the Constitution, CC? It's not hard to follow. It's only when it's stretched to justify results oriented rulings that it gets complicated.
    It was intended to be an evolving document, that is why there is so much room for interpretation... the BOR especially.
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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    "Legislating from the bench" is simply a code phrase for "ruling I don't like". It has pretty much zero meaning.
    I couldn't disagree more. “Legislating from the bench” occurs when a court overreaches its Article III constitutional authority and creates law. Do you deny this occurs?

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    I wonder if this might be a solution: The executive branch's power, in general, has grown beyond what was originally envisioned. So, to mitigate this, remove the involvement of that branch entirely. Give it to the legislature thus: they must appoint a panel consisting of judges who's responsibility is to appoint new Judges. Each side would appoint an equal number to the panel, with a final single appointee appointed by agreement of both parties in the Congress. If no agreement can be reached on this appointee by a specified date, the "partisan" panelists would take over that responsibility. If they cannot agree, then they would be barred from being nominated again to the panel permanently, and the process would begin again.

    Presumably, over time, the quality of judges would improve as far as non-partisanship. Thus, the panel itself would improve, and the process would deadlock less often.

    I envision the panel holding the responsibility for appointing Supremes as well. I believe this system would restore credibility to the judicial branch over time, which would be an awesome thing.
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