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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    So you'd rather have legislators be able to write laws that subvert the Constitution than give judges the power to maintain the Constitution. Okay then.
    No, I’d rather have legislators be able to write laws that subvert the Constitution while judges maintain the constitution than have legislators write constitutional laws while judges subvert it.

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    No, I’d rather have legislators be able to write laws that subvert the Constitution while judges maintain the constitution than have legislators write constitutional laws while judges subvert it.
    That doesn't seem to be any much better at all.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I complete agree with you. If a judge does not like the way a law is written, then let him resign from the bench and run for Congress. The courts are there to interpret the law, not create it through interpretations containing "artistic license".
    But some laws contradict higher law, and it is up for judges to determine that as well.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    That doesn't seem to be any much better at all.
    It is actually. You see, it doesn’t matter as much if congress writes laws that aren’t constitutional so long as the judicial branch is doing its job because the courts will kick them back to congress and tell them to fix it. That’s how the system was designed to work.

    If judges continue to subvert the constitution, it doesn’t matter whether the laws written by congress are constitutional or not, the constitution is being subverted. My answer is for congress to use its constitutional powers of impeachment to put the judiciary back in check.
    See how that works?

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    But some laws contradict higher law, and it is up for judges to determine that as well.
    That is true, but show me where in the Constitution where the issues of abortion and gay rights are given to the Federal government to determine. You won't find it. What you will find, though, is the 10th Amendment, which states:

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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    But some laws contradict higher law, and it is up for judges to determine that as well.
    I agree with this and i think it's safe to say danarhea will too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    That is true, but show me where in the Constitution where the issues of abortion and gay rights are given to the Federal government to determine. You won't find it. What you will find, though, is the 10th Amendment, which states:
    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
    This is true. There are some things I would support government involvement in if proper amendments were made to the constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    That is true, but show me where in the Constitution where the issues of abortion and gay rights are given to the Federal government to determine. You won't find it. What you will find, though, is the 10th Amendment, which states:
    But you forget the 9th Amendment, which states:

    Quote Originally Posted by The Ninth Amendment
    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
    So while the Constitution may not list exhaustively all the rights of a person, the 9th Amendment protects the unenumerated rights of the people, from the federal government as well as from state governments and local governments.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    I agree with this and i think it's safe to say danarhea will too.
    Well, judges can only do that through the power of judicial review though.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    But you forget the 9th Amendment, which states:



    So while the Constitution may not list exhaustively all the rights of a person, the 9th Amendment protects the unenumerated rights of the people, from the federal government as well as from state governments and local governments.
    true enough but some stuff congress does violates both the ninth and the tenth. social security, the war on drugs and any federal gun control for example

    I would note that Bork was the first Justice in modern times turned down for reasons other than integrity or qualifications and Estrada the first appellae pick blocked by the minority party for racist reasons



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