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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So you only want judges to interpret based on your partisan beliefs. You fail to see the problem with this?
    I want judges who will not reinterpret the laws and constitution based on their political beliefs.They should only literally interpret the laws and the constitution based on the views of those who wrote the laws and constitution. So that clearly means nobody who thinks the constitution is a living document that can be "reinterpreted" instead of going through the amendment process to add,remove or restrict rights.So that clearly means no liberal judges.
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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    No and no. The constitution isn’t vague, it just isn’t being amended and updated as often as it should be. Do you have a credible source for these “founding father intentions”?

    It isn’t an evolving document either, except for the evolutions resulting from amendments.
    Wrong, and of course there are credible sources. Madison and Hamilton. I have to step out for a few minutes. If someone can get the quotes for me, I'd appreciate it. If not, I'll do it when I get back.
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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Not true. Right wing judges usually interpret the Constitution more...ah...conservatively.
    Yes, in order to take away our freedoms.
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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Yes, in order to take away our freedoms.
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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Actually, I would prefer something different.

    The Senate would vote to appoint these judges within a time limit. Should the Senate not come to a majority, then the President has the power to appoint whoever he wants, and cannot be stopped by Congress.

    This way, Congress will either come to a consensus or suffer someone else exercising the power. And I would prefer that the President retain his checks on the judiciary. I am very much a fan of checks and balances.
    I still like my system better, but considering your system: I believe there ought to be consensus of the people about nominees. The presidency alone is not an office best representative of the consensus. I would prefer a system which requires a consensus which does not default to the power devolving to a partisan, namely the president. That is really the root of the problem being addressed here. Your solution, while solving the problem of facilitating appointment for it's own sake, at the same time increases the partisanship. Can you think of a way to avoid this, in the context of your suggestion?

    As it stands, I don't see your suggestion as doing anything at all to restore confidence in the Judiciary.
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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    No and no? It isn't an evolving document except for the evolutions... I love it. LOL!
    I was pretty clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    But that is unConstitutional... so that is different. Right to privacy is intended for searches and seizures and such... nobody has a right to "privacy" in the Const. that is retarded. Can people twist it for their own agenda... well yes. It can also be taken back.
    We haven't been able to take it back in 30 years. This is why we want people on the bench who interpret what the Constitution actually says, not what they think the founding fathers meant to "imply".
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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Wrong, and of course there are credible sources. Madison and Hamilton. I have to step out for a few minutes. If someone can get the quotes for me, I'd appreciate it. If not, I'll do it when I get back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    No and no? It isn't an evolving document except for the evolutions... I love it. LOL!
    I think what he meant was the way to adapt the Constitution is through properly amending it, not through activist interpretation.
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    Re: Chief justice urges progress naming judges

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    I was pretty clear.
    the BOR evolves... yeah, got it. And why did you say no to me then, eh? How does what I say merit your no when you go on to say what I said almost word for word, top that off with your near contradiction and we aren't gettin' very far, are we.
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