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    "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa

    Florida is among several states now holding what are called "no refusal" checkpoints.
    It means if you refuse a breath test during a traffic stop, a judge is on site, and issues a warrant that allows police to perform a mandatory blood test.
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    Street Judges? Reminds me of Judge Dredd. "I AM the law"
    Seems like this should violate some type of separation of powers. I also wonder what constitutes "reasonable suspicion" to take the blood since this is a checkpoint situation. Many times refusal constitutes "reasonable suspicion" which is bogus.
    I believe checkpoint are unconstitutional period. This IMO is another example of the American people are tolerant of an unconstitutional practice because it has become the norm and it is "for the public safety" or "the greater good". Now the government takes that practice to another level to see if they can get away with it also.
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    Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa

    Well, that's pretty disturbing.
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    Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa

    Another reason never to leave my beloved Wyoming.

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    Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Well, that's pretty disturbing.
    Even more disturbing since I live in Tampa. I make it a point to not drink and drive, but this still reeks of overstepping the bounds of reasonable searches. I am [relatively] safe and have protections for hiding something in my house, yet not safe hiding something in my body? Yeah I know a judge will be there to issue the on the spot warrant, but really, is just driving through a checkpoint reasonable cause?
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    Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa

    Exactly how is this constitutional? Freaking Florida.

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    Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Exactly how is this constitutional? Freaking Florida.
    I am trying to figure that one out myself, I don't get it. Slippery slope time, but what next door to door patrols with a judge in tow issuing warrants so they can come in and rummage through our houses simply because we did not invite them in to look? A mandated needle in my arm simply for driving on the wrong road and not consenting to blowing is pushing things way to far, and does not seem even remotely reasonable.
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    Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa

    It's not. At all. We have largely abandoned the protections of the 4th amendment in the last 40 years, previously to combat the bogeymen of drugs, and now against terrorism. We are not secure in our persons, houses, papers, or effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures. Warrants aren't even needed half the time, and when they are, they not upon probable cause, and not supported by oath or affirmation. Often they don't describe the place to be searched, or the persons or things to be seized.
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    Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa

    Don't drive drunk and it will not affect you. If you are caught well then you go to jail. Obey the law and stop whining when you get caught breaking it.

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    Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Don't drive drunk and it will not affect you. If you are caught well then you go to jail. Obey the law and stop whining when you get caught breaking it.
    all you have to do is be cruisng in that sweet Harley on the road they choose to set up the check point and you get pulled.
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    Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    all you have to do is be cruisng in that sweet Harley on the road they choose to set up the check point and you get pulled.
    Thats fine but I will not be drunk. Because I have a CDL I am DUI at .04%

    I bought a bottle of wine today to drink at home with my wife on New Years. I worked over Christmas so I could be home on New Years when all the drunks are out
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