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    Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa

    I'm sorry, but what a trucker agrees to in his contract with the DOT has absolutely nothing to do with an ordinary citizen driving home. It's a Bright Red herring.

    Checkpoints create traffic jams. Other Cops wearing themselves out pulling over sober drivers that make a u-turn in order to not have a forty minute wait. Hello, it's Gestapo time!

    They say that they have a judge with them to signs warrants that allow them to stick a needle in your arm against your wishes. I didn't read the link. I'm guessing that they also have a registered nurse on hand to properly wield the needle. This is of course all done without your lawyer being present.

    MADD will never relinquish any of their power. What would happen if they ever said that they had made enough laws against drunk driving? That's right, they would cease to exist. There's way too much money running through that system for it to ever stop.

    I've got a gig tonight. Yes, it's amateur night. Lucky for me, it's only a five mile drive. Still, it's five miles, at fender bender speeds, that could potentially alter my life for the worse by a monumental amount if I were to be caught over 0.08% BAC.

    I will be taking it easy. One drink, or less, per hour will let me drive home sober.
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    Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa

    I thought, in the USA, driving was considered a privilege, not a right, and you could refuse to take sobriety tests but, if you did, you would lose you driving license.

    Is that incorrect?

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    Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    because you let them. Not because it's a DOT requirement.
    So I should waste a day. No this has not happened to me yet

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    Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    As I have mentioned before I don't agree with those anymore than a checkpoint. People shouldn't have to prove their innocence.
    That being said, a blood test is a hell of a lot more invasive than a urine test. The point I was making is that this requirement is even above and beyond what is required of a CDL holder.

    Not if they cooperate

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    Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    Absolutely not. However you are complaining that you are treated less than a dog when a viable solution exists. It's your employer that doesn't give **** that you have to lay in the hot/cold truck to rest. They are too cheap to buy the proper equipment for you.
    Because the law is against me not the owner of the equipment. Why is it not a law companies have to provide these things?

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    Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    I'm sorry, but what a trucker agrees to in his contract with the DOT has absolutely nothing to do with an ordinary citizen driving home. It's a Bright Red herring.

    Checkpoints create traffic jams. Other Cops wearing themselves out pulling over sober drivers that make a u-turn in order to not have a forty minute wait. Hello, it's Gestapo time!

    They say that they have a judge with them to signs warrants that allow them to stick a needle in your arm against your wishes. I didn't read the link. I'm guessing that they also have a registered nurse on hand to properly wield the needle. This is of course all done without your lawyer being present.

    MADD will never relinquish any of their power. What would happen if they ever said that they had made enough laws against drunk driving? That's right, they would cease to exist. There's way too much money running through that system for it to ever stop.

    I've got a gig tonight. Yes, it's amateur night. Lucky for me, it's only a five mile drive. Still, it's five miles, at fender bender speeds, that could potentially alter my life for the worse by a monumental amount if I were to be caught over 0.08% BAC.

    I will be taking it easy. One drink, or less, per hour will let me drive home sober.
    Check points are legal

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    Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    I thought, in the USA, driving was considered a privilege, not a right, and you could refuse to take sobriety tests but, if you did, you would lose you driving license.

    Is that incorrect?

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    Yes and no. Now, like the OP posted, you can not refuse to take the test in some States. They will FORCE the person.... by whatever means possible.... to restrain you. Then forcably take a syringe.... put in in your body.... and then take your blood..... if they even suspect you to be under the influence.
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    Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa

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    USE GOOGLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im tired of people asking for proof. Im not wikipeda man. Im a mother ****ing Noodle!
    You made the claim, your responsibility to provide the evidence. Get use to it.
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    Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Check points are legal

    You're absolutely correct....I have a run to Indy in the morning by way of going through Columbus first, so I'll be home tonight even though I was invited to two parties.


    Ah well....Happy New Year.


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    Re: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
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    Street Judges? Reminds me of Judge Dredd. "I AM the law"
    Seems like this should violate some type of separation of powers. I also wonder what constitutes "reasonable suspicion" to take the blood since this is a checkpoint situation. Many times refusal constitutes "reasonable suspicion" which is bogus.
    I believe checkpoint are unconstitutional period. This IMO is another example of the American people are tolerant of an unconstitutional practice because it has become the norm and it is "for the public safety" or "the greater good". Now the government takes that practice to another level to see if they can get away with it also.
    Illinois has had checkpoints for years. Refusal to take a breathalizer means a 6-month license suspension. They don't need no stinkin' blood tests. Sounds like other states are behind the curve.
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