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    Re: Denmark holds 'Muhammad cartoon plotters'

    Muslims who have succeeded in mass murder for Islam.
    Muslims who have attempted mass murder, but failed.
    Muslims who were caught before they could mass murder.
    Muslims who wouldn't mass murder, themselves, but support those who do.
    Muslims who don't support the mass murder, but support the same totalitarian objectives.
    Muslims who share the same general attitudes towards Islam, but are willing to allow others to not follow Islam.
    Muslims who subscribe to some tenets of Islam, but not others.
    Muslims who are nominal Muslims and whose value systems are more secular in nature.

    the problem here is that the dedicated apologists only consider a very few to be "extremists", since they define extremism in such an extremely limited way, few fall under their designation. On the other hand, those who fail to distinguish between various Muslims tend to lump them all together. Both approaches miss the mark, because the former refuses to acknowledge the number of Muslims who share the same objective and the latter group fails to acknowledge the number of Muslims who don't.


    As far as backing up anything people say, I'd suggest Pew reports. They have conducted any number of opinion polls in all sorts of Muslim countries including western European Muslim populations. Instead of shooting from the hip by either minimizing or maximizing, I think people should pay attention to them and acknowledge what they actually reveal.
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    Re: Denmark holds 'Muhammad cartoon plotters'

    BAh...no worries...its not ALL of them...just some of them...like...maybe 1/5th of a billion or so people...if that...so...not like its a huge deal...
    200M people isn’t that many???

    Source? Or is this just a totally bogus number.
    There are about 1.7 billion muslims world wide, according to a couple of searches of the internet which kicks the number of killers up to 340 million.

    Read this and you will see that there are many more than 1/5th of the muslim population that supports the killing of infidels and using violence to get what they want and what they want Chappy, is to remove the liberal immorality that is pervasive in San Francisco.
    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...107&type=issue

    Satloff shows how, through fraudulent definition of the word "radical," the authors make it appear that a multi-year study of Muslim opinion worldwide showed that only seven percent of Muslims are radical, when, in reality, by any fair reading of the authors' own polling data, the correct number is 37 percent. How many radical Muslims are there in the world?
    37% would mean that we have 629M crazy killers to deal with. About two for ever man woman and child in the USA.

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    Re: Denmark holds 'Muhammad cartoon plotters'

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    There aren't hundreds of attacks daily. Annually, perhaps. But that's still only several hundred perpetrators a year. That's a long ways from a billion people.
    That depends on how you define the word "attack." Hundreds dead as more religious violence hits Nigeria | World news | guardian.co.uk

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    Re: Denmark holds 'Muhammad cartoon plotters'

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    And, to put it into perspective...a ven diagram.

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    Re: Denmark holds 'Muhammad cartoon plotters'

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    There aren't hundreds of attacks daily. Annually, perhaps. But that's still only several hundred perpetrators a year. That's a long ways from a billion people.
    Grrr...apparently my grammar is still failing me...I AGREE...not hundreds per day...annually...yes. And Im not asserting a billion...but with a billion muslims I think its a wee understatement that there ore 'only' 10,000. And frankly...Im tired of every day reading about some new plot or some new asshole getting caught or some terror act and then surprise!!!! oh...look...its another ****ing extremist muslim...you know...one of the 'few'...

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    Re: Denmark holds 'Muhammad cartoon plotters'

    Whenever you need to check. (not including arrests, just 'successful' attacks)

    Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time

    2010.12.28 (Pattani, Thailand) - A Buddhist man and his wife are machine-gunned by Islamic terrorists in front of their home.
    2010.12.28 (Pattani, Thailand) - Muslims shoot a Buddhist civilian to death as he is riding his motorcycle.
    2010.12.28 (Narathiwat, Thailand) - A man and his elderly father are murdered by Islamic gunmen.
    2010.12.27 (Karachi, Pakistan) - A young girl is among three people shot to death in separate sectarian attacks.
    2010.12.27 (Dujail, Iraq) - Jihadi bombers take down a Catholic woman and injure a family member.
    2010.12.27 (Ramadi, Iraq) - Twin suicide bombers take down 17 Iraqis, including women and children waiting in line.


    Weekly Jihad Report
    Dec. 11 - Dec. 17

    Jihad Attacks: 32
    Dead Bodies: 162
    Critically Injured: 347


    Monthly Jihad Report
    November, 2010

    Jihad Attacks: 144
    Countries: 15
    Religions: 5
    Dead Bodies: 609
    Critically Injured: 1252
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    Re: Denmark holds 'Muhammad cartoon plotters'

    As for people Lumping "Terrorist" and "extremist" as if they were one.
    I answered it [again] just days ago:
    (and see Gardener's post above for the categories of extremists who aren't terrorists)

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe...post1059171018

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Invisible
    Have you ever gone and looked at a single scientifiically conducted opinion poll to see that most Muslims do not support terrorism/extremism?
    "Most", what is most?

    and what is "terrorism/extremism"?

    They are not the same. And There are far too many Muslims who merely support just terrorism. Not near a majority, but say 5-10% of 1.5 Billion is Alot.

    and if you mean by "extremism".. Literalism (as it is used on/Against the Christian Right), then I would venture MOST Muslims are 'extremists.'

    We must be fair with these terms.
    Of course virtually no one is.

    see, ie,
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe...post1058436276

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe...post1058437965

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe...post1058440714
    which includes:

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete EU

    But let me ask you this. Will you condemn the radical religious right wing in the US for exactly the same thing as this thread was originally started out for?
    Quote Originally Posted by me
    ABSOLUTELY I do! That's always MY point tho.
    But let's not include, or include for ALL 'Radical' for all literalists.

    It's ME who's asking for fairness of usage of the word "Fundamentalist" as we apply it to Christian Literalists/Christian Right. And by all means let's include Orthodox/Ultra-Orthodox Jews for good measure.

    Yes, I INSIST we start using the term 'Fundamentalist' (as we do for the Christian/Falwell/Robertson 'Right') for ALL Literalists.
    Which would Include the MAJORITY of Muslims! OUCH.

    Yes, THAT IS my point you've naively suggested, and Manji, (and Hamid) YOU ignored.

    Let's see if You and others can be consistent and NOT Cultural Relativist and apply this term fairly.
    (and Gut a Dishonest PC Mainstay of Mocking Robertson while condoning the same and even less tolerant ideals regulary voiced by Muslims. Like This VERY string Topic's Stats. Hello!)
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    Re: Denmark holds 'Muhammad cartoon plotters'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, the other 99.9 percent can't do a damn thing to stamp the jihadis out of exitence? Sump'n very wrong with that picture.

    Sure as hell wernt no shortage of Muslims taking to the streets to protest the Mohammed cartoons.
    Imagine if 0.01% of the Christians did this. You can bet there'd be an end to it.
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    Re: Denmark holds 'Muhammad cartoon plotters'

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    And, to put it into perspective...a ven diagram.

    What the hell does this prove? Why are you comparing the American population to muslims?



    You see that thin blue sliver called Judaism? The thin blue sliver has been kicking the thick red sliver's ass for years.
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    Re: Denmark holds 'Muhammad cartoon plotters'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What the hell does this prove? Why are you comparing the American population to muslims?



    You see that thin blue sliver called Judaism? The thin blue sliver has been kicking the thick red sliver's ass for years.
    That's true, and the Jews have done it with hard work, education, family values, and intelligence.

    Now the Muslims are striking back with intimidation, maintaining deliberate ignorance of its followers, and terrorism.

    http://europenews.dk/files/Shariah%2...2009142010.pdf

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