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    Re: rmed and ready for Ivorian intervention?

    There was a cartoon once...cant recall the title...had a little yippy chijuajua or poodle or some other such little yippy lap dog running around all the time talking about how SOMEONE ELSE should kick someone elses ass...

    Yeah...that fits...We should go over there and kick ass...and by we...I mean...YOU guys...yeah...

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    Re: rmed and ready for Ivorian intervention?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The United States should send troops into Cote D'Ivoire if necessary. It would cost us virtually nothing, the troops wouldn't have to be there more than a couple months, and they would have a clear mission: to help establish the legitimately elected government. This is exactly the kind of situation where we should be more willing to deploy our military.
    I disagree. No compelling U.S. interests are involved. In fact, similar arguments were made when the U.S. intervened in Somalia beginning in 1992, another case where no compelling U.S. interests were involved. That move was a disaster and should never have occurred. Neither should U.S. military intervention in Cote D'Ivoire even as I hope that the dictator who refuses to relinquish power ultimately falls. The regional states do have a compelling interest in the situation and, if they choose to intervene militarily, that would be a course of action consistent with their interests.

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    Re: rmed and ready for Ivorian intervention?

    After the experience of the last decade I think Americans will be reluctant to send troops overseas for any purpose. Sending US troops on humanitarian missions is a nonstarter.

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    Re: rmed and ready for Ivorian intervention?

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    After the experience of the last decade I think Americans will be reluctant to send troops overseas for any purpose. Sending US troops on humanitarian missions is a nonstarter.
    We dont need troops. We can send an all volunteer peace corps and they will love them and show compassion and by doing so win their trust...and then there will be peace throughout the land.

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    Re: rmed and ready for Ivorian intervention?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    We dont need troops. We can send an all volunteer peace corps and they will love them and show compassion and by doing so win their trust...and then there will be peace throughout the land.
    Oh you cynic you Vance

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    Re: rmed and ready for Ivorian intervention?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Oh you cynic you Vance
    All I am saying, is give peace a chance...

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    Re: rmed and ready for Ivorian intervention?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    All I am saying, is give peace a chance...
    Don't forget hope and change there buddy

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    Re: rmed and ready for Ivorian intervention?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Don't forget hope and change there buddy
    Im hopeful...for change. And then they can build a daisy bridge to Israel and make everything there happy and peaceful! Imagine!!!

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    Re: rmed and ready for Ivorian intervention?

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Really how is it affecting us right now?
    Instability spreads disease, raises the price of commodities, provides potential terrorist havens, and lowers the economic output of our potential trading partners.

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123
    I didnt say if it would accomplish anything or not. Im just saying those who want the US to the police of the world should go into these conflicts themselves with their own money. Let them be mercenaries and as we have seen in Iraq and Afghanistan toppling authoritarian governments and its aftermath arent cakewalks.
    In Iraq and Afghanistan we imposed a government on societies that had no experience with democracy, that didn't particularly like us in the first place, and that had no civil society in place. In Cote D'Ivoire we would be turning the keys over to a legitimate government in a nation where the US is respected far more than their own leaders.

    The sooner that people can actually evaluate potential military intervention on its merits instead of reflexively comparing it to Iraq regardless of the circumstances, the better off the world will be.
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    Re: rmed and ready for Ivorian intervention?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    There are already troops there.
    There are UN troops there, with orders not to fire or do much of anything. I'm talking about actual soldiers who are willing to do what is necessary to impose order, not some guys running around with guns doing nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU
    Sorry but you stated the US and not other countries and my point stands. The US has never gone into Africa and is over stretched as it is. On top of that, there are already many thousands of troops in the country overseeing the ceasefire of the last civil war. Also France has big links to the country and possibly a base there if not a large amount of troops. It was not long ago that the French wtfpawned some rebels who fired on them .. was all over the news.
    OK, you're obviously more interested in braying about how great the EU is and how terrible the US is, rather than actually evaluating the idea that there should be a serious intervention in Cote D'Ivoire. I'll let you have that argument with yourself.
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