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    Re: N.J. lawmaker questions absence of Christie, lt. gov. during blizzard

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I know, NJ has an advantage because they are just rolling in the dough. :-)
    The matter is not total state budgetting, but the amount allocated to various services and needs.

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    Re: N.J. lawmaker questions absence of Christie, lt. gov. during blizzard

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    The matter is not total state budgetting, but the amount allocated to various services and needs.
    Great response..... now post some numbers backing your assertion that New Jersey allocates more money for snow removal than New York.

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    Re: N.J. lawmaker questions absence of Christie, lt. gov. during blizzard

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    The matter is not total state budgetting, but the amount allocated to various services and needs.
    Resource allocation matters. In the wake of NYC's debacle, genuine questions about what is critical/is not need to be asked and resource allocations adjusted as appropriate. I would suggest that any municipality's ability to handle emergency situations, especially those that are not uncommon e.g., major snowstorms, is a critical issue.

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    Re: N.J. lawmaker questions absence of Christie, lt. gov. during blizzard

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Great response..... now post some numbers backing your assertion that New Jersey allocates more money for snow removal than New York.
    Well, given that I was referencing a new report I heard on the radio, I will be happy to post it when its posted on NPR's website, but it looks like its not there yet.

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    Re: N.J. lawmaker questions absence of Christie, lt. gov. during blizzard

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Resource allocation matters. In the wake of NYC's debacle, genuine questions about what is critical/is not need to be asked and resource allocations adjusted as appropriate. I would suggest that any municipality's ability to handle emergency situations, especially those that are not uncommon e.g., major snowstorms, is a critical issue.
    I agree it matters, but in neither case do I feel that its a personal failure of the state governers or mayors.

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    Re: N.J. lawmaker questions absence of Christie, lt. gov. during blizzard

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I agree it matters, but in neither case do I feel that its a personal failure of the state governers or mayors.
    They definitely don't bear the burden of the whole failure. But where bad decisions were made e.g., the lack of calling a snow emergency, blame is deserved. Declaring a snow emergency in advance of an expected blizzard or large snowstorm (potential for 10" or more) is a "no brainer." They set the stage for a more effective clean-up operation. When blowing and drifting snow is expected (as occurs in blizzards), they are even more helpful, as parked cars can be buried under snow drifts, making clean-up much more difficult.

    My guess is that complacency reigned in NYC ahead of the storm. After highly effective clean-ups following the two snowstorms I mentioned earlier, including the biggest in NYC's history, there was a sense that today's capabilities had become so good that the impact of the storm was seriously underestimated. With the storm's impact being underestimated, no snow emergency was declared, as it was believed that the road crews would easily be up to the task. In many ways, that thinking is not too far removed from the "new era" thinking that preceded the collapse of the nation's housing bubble sparking the financial crisis and severe recession.

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    Re: N.J. lawmaker questions absence of Christie, lt. gov. during blizzard

    Quote Originally Posted by E_Pluribus_Venom View Post
    Living here in N.J. and having experienced the blizzard... it wasn't as bad a past years. Him leaving isn't a big deal... sure it may be frowned upon, but who cares enough to make a big stink of it.
    Just look through this thread...
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    Re: N.J. lawmaker questions absence of Christie, lt. gov. during blizzard

    So in summary, Mayor dooshbag of NYC = Fail, en espanol even...


    NJ did as we always do.... yet the partisan hacks are ignoring bloomberg and going after christie?


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    Re: N.J. lawmaker questions absence of Christie, lt. gov. during blizzard

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Just look through this thread...





    bro, don't you love how those not living in our state are telling us how christie failed?


    We had a freaking snow day for the love of god and these folks act like it was a heat wave in France.
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    Re: N.J. lawmaker questions absence of Christie, lt. gov. during blizzard

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    bro, don't you love how those not living in our state are telling us how christie failed?


    We had a freaking snow day for the love of god and these folks act like it was a heat wave in France.
    So I imagine he has returned by now?
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