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N.J. lawmaker questions absence of Christie, lt. gov. during blizzard

LOL, well West Texas might better suit your point.

Dallas is more like far south Chicago these days. I wish the north would get their **** together and stop moving down here.


The migration is just folk like me looking to escape the liberal north, and east coast. I ran into some of the same type of thinking moving from Maryland, to South Carolina.


j-mac
 
Dallas will always be:


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I think you meant:

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Moderator's Warning:
Haymarket, Rev, knock it off. Stick to the topic.

That's awfully stern for a kitty with a ball of wool. :mrgreen:
 
Because this is about NJ, not NYC. Start a thread about how Bloomberg ****ed up and then we can discuss that. Or are you trying to derail the thread yet again because the facts dont suit you? That is after all your normal operating procedure.


http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-pa...ristie-gets-flack-while-bloomberg-skates.html



already there chief.



Your links says nothing of what you state. Weather changes all the time, but that storm was for warned days in advanced. We even got reports about it in Europe that it was developing.


This is a lie. The storm was supposed to skirt the coast up until 6 hours before it hit. Please link me to your "reports". I don't think you are telling the truth.


24 inches of snow in a day or two is massive. Plus in areas it was much more, and with the wind factor then it gets really bad. So dont play dumb.

Not in Jersey it isn't as my link you ignored demonstrates. :shrug:

almost Every year we get a strom or two that surpasses 2 ft.....


Plus if it was "normal" snow fall, does that not mean that your state and your leader was incompetent to even deal with that? At least with an unexpected snow fall he has an excuse, but if as you claim it is "normal" then what excuse does he have then for not doing his freaking job? Why did it take so long to clear roads? Why did the state ground to a near halt if it was "normal" snow fall? Why did airlines cancel every flight if it was "normal" snowfall?


uhm kid, we had a normal snow day. the day after we plowed, and things were back to normal. the roads were cleared. your thinking of NYC, in NJ we had no issues.



And as your own link stated.. a record heat wave.. aka out of the ordinary.. And you stated


So by your "logic" jersey has an "out of the ordinary" snowstorm and no one dies.... France has a heat wave "out of the ordinary" and 30k die.... And it's comparable, how?



which clearly says... A French heat wave where 30k people died. That is false. 14802 died in France. Across Europe, from Portugal to Russia, 35k died in the worst heat wave seen for over a century. And again you avoided the fact that the normal summer temperature does not require homes be cooled down by air conditioners and hence most European countries do not have them.

And again, I can not state this enough, we were seeing 100F+ temperatures across Europe in areas that had never seen such high temperatures and these temperatures lasted for weeks. In the Netherlands it reached almost 38 degrees (98ish F) for a considerable amount of time, in a country that barely gets above 30c (86F) during the summer.

Sounds almost as bad as our snow squal... :ssst:



So are you telling me that on the off chance that the temperatures once in several centuries may reach insane levels that European houses have to be equipped with air condition? Why dont you answer that? Or will you as usual ignore the obvious?

I'm just pointing out what a real emergency is, and not what a partisan hack non-emergency is....


Actually you were caught out yet again. Your own comments doomed you.



We had snow. We plowed. We moved on. I have no clue what you are upset about here.
 
The answer to your question is because the NFL made the decision, not the state of PA. And what does the NFL and Pennsylvania's football stadium have to do with NJ and Christie? Here's a dumbed down version for you:

Nothing.

I don't care if it was God Almighty that made the decision. My point was that in both instances, there was a threat of a crisis. Strickland was heavily criticized for going on his planned trip, while the same critics give Christie a big ole green light. It's obvious partisanship at it's finest.

PS. The answer to your question "And what does the NFL and Pennsylvania's football stadium have to do with NJ and Christie?" is simple. The same storm hit 'em both.
 
up until about 6 hours before the storm hit, it wasn't supposed to be that big, and even after it hit, it was just a freaking snow storm, we get them in the winter. /facepalm

I am from New Hampshire, so I know about these storms. The forecast was for heavy snow all up and down the northeast coastal region... He knew what was coming.
 
This guy is a duchbag. He ordered the diversion of local snow clearing machines to clear state roads and then blame the mayors for not doing their jobs.. hope he gets booted out at the next election or is impeached for incompetence.

Gov. Christie praises his administration for work done after blizzard, chastises mayors for local efforts | NJ.com

Got to love these quotes.

I am not sure about NJ, but in NH, state roads are the responsibility of the state, the local roads are the responsibility of city and town governments... got that?
 
Do people expect Governor Mike Michaels (or whatever his redundant name is ;)) to shovel the snow himself? He'd have a heart attack.

Exactly. Maybe that's what they were hoping for. That's the only reason I can think that some are so adament that he should have been there.
 
I am from New Hampshire, so I know about these storms. The forecast was for heavy snow all up and down the northeast coastal region... He knew what was coming.



For ne and nh maybe but it was supposed to skirt the coast....


Just like the storm coming friday..... Tell me is bergen county getting "under 5 inches" or "more than a foot"....


Lonnie quinn doesnt seem to know. And thats the point. Can you link me btw to a local paper claiming the xmas storm was going to be a whopper? Thanks
 
I don't care if it was God Almighty that made the decision. My point was that in both instances, there was a threat of a crisis. Strickland was heavily criticized for going on his planned trip, while the same critics give Christie a big ole green light. It's obvious partisanship at it's finest.

PS. The answer to your question "And what does the NFL and Pennsylvania's football stadium have to do with NJ and Christie?" is simple. The same storm hit 'em both.



Devils game in newark who ended up with 30+ inches..... Not cancelled. For the 2nd time.....


Please address. Thanks
 
yeah, when I was a kid in the 80s, I could make 75-100 bucks a snowstorm... loved them...




I bought an old used up 125 quad with a plow and made bank out by my grandparents place back in the day. (we didnt have driveways where i lived at the time)
 
I don't care if it was God Almighty that made the decision. My point was that in both instances, there was a threat of a crisis. Strickland was heavily criticized for going on his planned trip, while the same critics give Christie a big ole green light. It's obvious partisanship at it's finest.

PS. The answer to your question "And what does the NFL and Pennsylvania's football stadium have to do with NJ and Christie?" is simple. The same storm hit 'em both.

I'm still waiting on someone to present the nonexistent proof that this was forecast to be a snowstorm in the Philly, N.J., New York area 48 hours before it hit. Got any ???

The NFL was heavily criticised by most, including the Dem governor of PA, Rendell who called them wussies. They only got around 6 inches at the stadium.
 
I'm still waiting on someone to present the nonexistent proof that this was forecast to be a snowstorm in the Philly, N.J., New York area 48 hours before it hit. Got any ???

The NFL was heavily criticised by most, including the Dem governor of PA, Rendell who called them wussies. They only got around 6 inches at the stadium.

Are you saying that Christie was not aware of the strom before he left for Florida?
 
The roads got cleared. End of story. Good leaders don't need to be around, they've planned a prepared so well that those in their employ do what is needed when it is needed.
 
Are you saying that Christie was not aware of the strom before he left for Florida?




I keep telling you. You just rather be a partisan hack about all this so i cant help ya anymore.


It was a snow storm predicted to miss us and be minor until THAT morning.

Still it was a snow storm.... We oPlowed and moved on. Like always.
 
I keep telling you. You just rather be a partisan hack about all this so i cant help ya anymore.


It was a snow storm predicted to miss us and be minor until THAT morning.

Still it was a snow storm.... We oPlowed and moved on. Like always.

LOL. I ask a question and I get called a partisan hack. Please tell me where I said Christie did a bad thing by going to Florida. Here's a hint... I didn't. But rest assured I have little doubt that if Christie were a Democrat, you'd be all over him.
 
Are you saying that Christie was not aware of the strom before he left for Florida?

I can see it now...

WxChannel Dude:

"Gov. Christie! It's the Weather Channel, sir... I'm afraid there is snow forecast in NJ for when you are planning to be in Florida sir."

Gov. Chistie
"Snow, in NJ, in December? You don't say. Hold a second (muffled speech "honey make sure you pack the kids swim suits" ) You were saying something about snow?"

Wxchannel dude:
"Sir, you don't understand, there might be... more then 6 inches sir!"

Gov. Christie:
"Oookay, and? It's winter, it's NJ, it happens..."

Gov flies to Florida, NJ handles the white stuff just fine... Partisan hacks wig out. OH LOOK! MG is here wigging out!
 
Depends on when he left....I haven't seen that reported anywhere.


j-mac
I would like to know what difference any of it made, except the ultra-galactic partisan hacks are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Did Obama visit every stinking flood and earthquake site? Did the governor of NJ have an effective emergency management system? Does anyone else besides me have a management degree, and can plainly see the problem with the complaints?
 
LOL. I ask a question and I get called a partisan hack. Please tell me where I said Christie did a bad thing by going to Florida. Here's a hint... I didn't. But rest assured I have little doubt that if Christie were a Democrat, you'd be all over him.







don't start **** if you don't want it thrown back in your face..... :shrug:




lying about me because you are a partisan hack is rather foolish.

I like how you dumb it down. To me, a crisis is a crisis. If this storm was supposed to be soooo typical, why was a football game cancelled because of it's threat? Bottom line, I have little doubt that if Christie was a Democrat, he'd be feeling your wrath, but because he's a Republican, he gets a pass. Got it, Rev.




note, I initially blamed bloomberg, a raging liberal in nyc for thier failures to plow. since yesterday I switched my blame to the thug unions...... I await your apology for your now twice false accusations any time....

http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-pa...ck-while-bloomberg-skates.html#post1059196537

aslo since this post, I pointed out we get storms like this almost every year, and not once have I blamed a governer for his wearabouts for a storm, D or R....


Again, I await, the honorable thing from you, an apology.
 
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I would like to know what difference any of it made, except the ultra-galactic partisan hacks are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Did Obama visit every stinking flood and earthquake site? Did the governor of NJ have an effective emergency management system? Does anyone else besides me have a management degree, and can plainly see the problem with the complaints?


Snow storms are notorious for getting politicians in trouble. But with that said, you have a point, maybe we should go back and see what some of these same posters said about Obama's response to the oil spill in the Gulf in response to criticism...I'd wager we could almost substitute the lines drawn on criticism....lol


j-mac
 
Snow storms are notorious for getting politicians in trouble. But with that said, you have a point, maybe we should go back and see what some of these same posters said about Obama's response to the oil spill in the Gulf in response to criticism...I'd wager we could almost substitute the lines drawn on criticism....lol


j-mac

Natural disasters in general I'd say...
 
Snow storms are notorious for getting politicians in trouble. But with that said, you have a point, maybe we should go back and see what some of these same posters said about Obama's response to the oil spill in the Gulf in response to criticism...I'd wager we could almost substitute the lines drawn on criticism....lol


j-mac

Seems to me, based on what Rev said, that Christie's management is so good, that everything was taken care of without him being there. Think about that!
 
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