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    Re: N.J. lawmaker questions absence of Christie, lt. gov. during blizzard

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    From my experience in the Army I expect leadership, and my subordinates expect it from me, to be present and suffer through whatever they are going through even if I cannot change anything about the situation. Why, because Im in charge thats why. But like I said thats just my perspective, and for me to respect some in a position of leadership or authority they cannot be aloof and distant to whats going on.
    Someone quick call Obama to come home from vacation! Christie has deserted NJ and they need leadership. They have snow!

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    Dressed casually in a black polo shirt, khaki shorts and flip-flops, Obama ordered a melon, lemon-lime and cherry shave ice at Island Snow, a store he has frequented during past trips to Hawaii.
    He offered a ringing endorsement for his flavor combination, proclaiming it "really good."
    Obama chatted with excited workers and asked them about their holidays as he placed about a dozen more orders for daughters Malia and Sasha as well as several family friends from Hawaii and Chicago who have joined Obama here. Obama's party stood outside enjoying their treats under cloudy skies.
    The president spent much of the cloudy, drizzly Hawaiian day indoors at Marine Corps Base Hawaii, bowling with his daughters and playing basketball with friends.
    The base has become a sanctuary for the president on his Hawaiian vacations. The president golfs on the base course, the first couple uses its gym for morning workouts and the first family often visits a secluded beach here.
    But Obamas haven't had much in the way of beach weather. Clouds hung over the island of Oahu on Monday, and more rain is forecast throughout the week.
    The Obamas are expected to stay in Hawaii through Jan. 2.
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    Re: N.J. lawmaker questions absence of Christie, lt. gov. during blizzard

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Someone quick call Obama to come home from vacation! Christie has deserted NJ and they need leadership. They have snow!

    Obama steps out in Hawaii for shave ice treat - Forbes.com


    Dressed casually in a black polo shirt, khaki shorts and flip-flops, Obama ordered a melon, lemon-lime and cherry shave ice at Island Snow, a store he has frequented during past trips to Hawaii.
    He offered a ringing endorsement for his flavor combination, proclaiming it "really good."
    Obama chatted with excited workers and asked them about their holidays as he placed about a dozen more orders for daughters Malia and Sasha as well as several family friends from Hawaii and Chicago who have joined Obama here. Obama's party stood outside enjoying their treats under cloudy skies.
    The president spent much of the cloudy, drizzly Hawaiian day indoors at Marine Corps Base Hawaii, bowling with his daughters and playing basketball with friends.
    The base has become a sanctuary for the president on his Hawaiian vacations. The president golfs on the base course, the first couple uses its gym for morning workouts and the first family often visits a secluded beach here.
    But Obamas haven't had much in the way of beach weather. Clouds hung over the island of Oahu on Monday, and more rain is forecast throughout the week.
    The Obamas are expected to stay in Hawaii through Jan. 2.
    Diversionary tactics by changing topics? We were talking about a specific state governor and now we are talking about the President, as if Barack Obama going on a vacation has anything to do with what we were talking about or pointing out that he's on vacation is going to make me change my mind? Because after all I can't deny my God so therefore you've caught me, either I admit my opinion is hypocritical or change it. O noes!!

    But if you want to bring it up fine. Here's my opinion, the President should be in the White House if the whole nation is under a state of emergency, since being the President he has national responsibilities. A governor should be around if his whole state is under a state of emergency since he only has responsibilities for his state.

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    Re: N.J. lawmaker questions absence of Christie, lt. gov. during blizzard

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Diversionary tactics by changing topics? We were talking about a specific state governor and now we are talking about the President, as if Barack Obama going on a vacation has anything to do with what we were talking about or pointing out that he's on vacation is going to make me change my mind? Because after all I can't deny my God so therefore you've caught me, either I admit my opinion is hypocritical or change it. O noes!!

    But if you want to bring it up fine. Here's my opinion, the President should be in the White House if the whole nation is under a state of emergency, since being the President he has national responsibilities. A governor should be around if his whole state is under a state of emergency since he only has responsibilities for his state.
    And if there was anything Christie could do in NJ that he can't do from Florida, I'd agree with you.
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    Re: N.J. lawmaker questions absence of Christie, lt. gov. during blizzard

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    A better response then I could have ever hoped for.

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    Re: N.J. lawmaker questions absence of Christie, lt. gov. during blizzard

    I live in NJ. Christie is an idiot. But there was no reason for him to fly back here because of the blizzard. Anything he could do, in this day and age of modern communication, he could do from Florida... even be an idiot. I may not like him, but this is not an issue to ride him about. Not a big deal at all.
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    Re: N.J. lawmaker questions absence of Christie, lt. gov. during blizzard

    Any problems in NJ? I realize that they had a lot of snow, but did Christie's absence lead to a poor government response? From what I can tell, no one here has claimed that the response is bad. Mostly, they just seem jealous that he's not freezing his ass off too.
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    Re: N.J. lawmaker questions absence of Christie, lt. gov. during blizzard

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Any problems in NJ? I realize that they had a lot of snow, but did Christie's absence lead to a poor government response? From what I can tell, no one here has claimed that the response is bad. Mostly, they just seem jealous that he's not freezing his ass off too.
    They didn't do a great job on the roads... of course, I have a high tolerance for poor roads and drive in near anything, so I was the only one in my office who went to work, yesterday. In truth, I see the response as similar to other severe snowstorms we've had... which is usually pretty good. The roads were a little mssier than I've seen them in the past, but all in all, I'd say the response was fine. Like I said, this is a non-issue. Christie didn't need to end his vacation and come home. Whatever he did... if he did anything, he could do by phone. The state was fine.
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    Re: N.J. lawmaker questions absence of Christie, lt. gov. during blizzard

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I live in NJ. Christie is an idiot. But there was no reason for him to fly back here because of the blizzard. Anything he could do, in this day and age of modern communication, he could do from Florida... even be an idiot. I may not like him, but this is not an issue to ride him about. Not a big deal at all.
    Christie should get back to New Jersey.

    Doubt that Christie could provide any better leadership if he was on the phone in his office versus on the phone from Florida. But the issue is more one of appearance and protocol. New Jersey is in a declared state of emergency. And the Governor has the responsibility and accountability for the welfare of the State that he leads.

    This one doesn't seem complex. As soon as the storm hit and the emergency was officially declared, Christie should have had his butt on the next plane/bus/car heading back to NJ.


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    Re: N.J. lawmaker questions absence of Christie, lt. gov. during blizzard

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    Christie should get back to New Jersey.

    Doubt that Christie could provide any better leadership if he was on the phone in his office versus on the phone from Florida. But the issue is more one of appearance and protocol. New Jersey is in a declared state of emergency. And the Governor has the responsibility and accountability for the welfare of the State that he leads.

    This one doesn't seem complex. As soon as the storm hit and the emergency was officially declared, Christie should have had his butt on the next plane/bus/car heading back to NJ.


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    I understand how it may look, but I am less about appearence and more about action. There is nothing that he could do here that he can't do there regarding this emergency. It's snow. We get storms like this about once a year. Not a big deal. Public Works has it well under control.
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    Re: N.J. lawmaker questions absence of Christie, lt. gov. during blizzard

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I understand how it may look, but I am less about appearence and more about action. There is nothing that he could do here that he can't do there regarding this emergency. It's snow. We get storms like this about once a year. Not a big deal. Public Works has it well under control.

    I think that most are either complaining for partisan reasons, or that they don't like the man. But hat tip to you CC. You don't like him, but your response is certainly reasonable.


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