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    Re: Republicans plan sweeping rules changes in new Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    OMG. Can it be that the Republicans have had a Come to Jesus Moment?? One can hope!! Also this:



    And for those cynics who say that $25-$30 million is nothing, just shut up.
    LOL...I don't know about a "Jesus Moment' - whatever that is - and I sure hope you're happy with you're hope, but my memory goes back a little further, so at least I won't be disappointed.

    Was that before or after raising their payrolls?

    Cantor, the Virginia Republican who has led the GOP charge this year to freeze federal salaries, has boosted his congressional office's payroll by 81 percent since coming to Congress in 2001 - about 8 percent per year through 2009. When he became minority whip last year, the office's personnel expenses went up by at least 16 percent.
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    -Firebrand Republican Michele Bachmann of Minnesota has for months pushed legislation to freeze what she calls "unconscionable" federal salaries. Meanwhile, her own payroll jumped 16 percent between 2007, when she came to Congress, and 2009.

    - Rep. Jason Chaffetz, the Utah Republican set to chair the House subcommittee overseeing the federal work force, says Washington must "figure out how to do more with less." But the freshman lawmaker gave his own employees an average raise of about 9 percent this year.

    - Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., who has long criticized federal pay, has overseen an average jump of 8 percent per year in his office employee costs between 2006, his first full year in the Senate, and 2009.


    SPIN METER: Conflicting GOP messages on pay cuts
    But I really, really, double promise I'll be better this time....
    “We just simply don’t know how to govern” - Rep. Steve Womack (R-AR) a member of the House Budget Committee

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    Re: Republicans plan sweeping rules changes in new Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    How are you going to deal with debt service on the national debt?
    The logical way is to pay it.
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    Re: Republicans plan sweeping rules changes in new Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The logical way is to pay it.
    How are you going to do that?

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    Re: Republicans plan sweeping rules changes in new Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by snilloctjc View Post
    The Budget - is publicly available at OMB.GOV You can also find historical tables of expenditures, revenues, and budgets
    I know that, but it's not transparent in the same way statements are for publicly traded company's.. they attach hundreds of pages explaining financial debts, law suits, costs of ethical investigations, numbers subject to change, outstanding stocks/bonds, etc.. Those statements aren't that clear, and doesn't show all the spending in the government.
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    Re: Republicans plan sweeping rules changes in new Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I know that, but it's not transparent in the same way statements are for publicly traded company's.. they attach hundreds of pages explaining financial debts, law suits, costs of ethical investigations, numbers subject to change, outstanding stocks/bonds, etc.. Those statements aren't that clear, and doesn't show all the spending in the government.
    That takes more effort such as going to each executive department's web page for example

    Office of the Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller)

    and the drilling down for the douments you want to view

    http://comptroller.defense.gov/defbu...etBriefing.pdf

    NOt always an easy read - but hey when I was a stock analyst in the mid-1980s I made a living reading the 10k and 10q reports of publicly traded companies, now I do it with gov. documents just because

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    Re: Republicans plan sweeping rules changes in new Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    How are you going to do that?
    I wouldn't bother asking Hay for anythign liek a specific plan... he's more interested in blaming the GOP and whining in general.

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    Re: Republicans plan sweeping rules changes in new Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    I wouldn't bother asking Hay for anythign liek a specific plan... he's more interested in blaming the GOP and whining in general.
    Says you and we know what that is worth.

    The only way to pay a debt is a bit at a time. What else is there?
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    Re: Republicans plan sweeping rules changes in new Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by snilloctjc View Post
    That takes more effort such as going to each executive department's web page for example

    Office of the Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller)

    and the drilling down for the douments you want to view

    http://comptroller.defense.gov/defbu...etBriefing.pdf

    NOt always an easy read - but hey when I was a stock analyst in the mid-1980s I made a living reading the 10k and 10q reports of publicly traded companies, now I do it with gov. documents just because
    I read those too... so you know how detailed they are with all the costs and liabilities.. assets and where revenues are coming from, and who owns the debt, how much.... how much was paid off, how much debt they own..

    It's not just showing the budgets... Our government should be that open too.. I don't like having to dig around and trying to find all the different documents..

    It seriously causes me to question the knowledge of the people forecasting the budget. Do they actually know that much about the accounts, and our debts, who owns them, how well they are managed? Probably not...

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    Re: Republicans plan sweeping rules changes in new Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Says you and we know what that is worth.

    The only way to pay a debt is a bit at a time. What else is there?
    What items would you cut from the budget in order to free up the revenues necessary to pay off the national debt a bit at a time?

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    Re: Republicans plan sweeping rules changes in new Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Funny how they had 10 years to put these reforms in and did not.. go figure..
    It's a new day.
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