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Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

Truth is closer to this, those who can carpool but don't will be the first to whine about gas prices.

nonsense

those who can carpool will try to carpool, when gas hits a hundred dollars a tank (in times like these)

those who can't carpool will...

well, whine isn't the best word for what they'll do

they'll VOTE, is more like it

so will the carpoolers

few of us work at military bases
 
nonsense

those who can carpool will try to carpool, when gas hits a hundred dollars a tank (in times like these)

those who can't carpool will...

well, whine isn't the best word for what they'll do

they'll VOTE, is more like it

so will the carpoolers

few of us work at military bases

vote? how will that make gas prices go down? you looking for socialized fuel subsidies?
 
Your claim is that the Democratic filibuster stopped us every year since 1971 from prouducing more oil than we did in that year?

No part of the time they had the majority
 
It is an absurd argument to suggest that anything our politicians do, short of price setting schemes, will have anything to do with the price of oil. The price of oil will climb, not because of government intervention but because of increased consumption.
 
Within a one mile radius of my house in Virginia Beach, VA lived enough people for a 4 person carpool.....in the late 70's.
We all worked at the Navy base in Norfolk.
My first civilian job had a large carpool, we rode bus for 60 miles each way.
My next to last civilian job, at a nuke plant west of town, there were 12 to 15 people per vanpool.

Truth is closer to this, those who can carpool but don't will be the first to whine about gas prices...

Can everybody car pool? No.....
nor does everybody have to drive a 4x4 truck with one person in it every day to and from work...

I buy ethanol free gas and drive my pick up 80 miles each way to work. Of course I stay out 3 weeks at a time so I fill up once a month or less
 
yesterday, the white house intimated that it might cave on epa particulars in order to keep the govt from shutting down

the greenie outrage was pretty gruesome and by afternoon, typical of this crew, the admin was "furiously" backpedaling from its capitulation

President Barack Obama's relationship with environmentalists sits on thin ice after a major league meltdown over whether he will really defend their biggest demand: EPA climate change rules.

Tensions have crossed into the danger zone between the two camps after a year of cross-ups, including the failure to get a cap-and-trade bill through the Senate and Obama’s embrace of what historically have been green no-no’s like oil drilling and nuclear power.

Angst grew this week after Obama failed to use a major energy policy speech at Georgetown University to explicitly back the EPA's global warming agenda. Then, in what might have begun as a misunderstanding over acronyms, the AP reported that the president was leaning on House Democrats to accept a GOP-authored budget rider that would thwart EPA's greenhouse gas regulations.

The White House furiously denied the story, but the fate of the budget debate over the next eight days could govern the relationship between the administration and environmental community through the 2012 election.

Barack Obama's on thin green ice - Darren Samuelsohn - POLITICO.com

W.H. pushes back against report of capitulation on EPA - Robin Bravender and Darren Samuelsohn - POLITICO.com
 
Ok, let's go with unemployment then.

The U3 unemployment rate under Bush for his first 26 months increased by a whopping 41%, under Obama, the U3 unemployment rate has increased only 14%.

So by that measure, Obama is doing better than Bush.

Damn, proving you wrong couldn't have been easier.
:2razz:


Might we have a link to what you are offering here? See, Bush was contending with more forces outside his control that Obama's self imposed, nation destroying ones.

j-mac
 
Within a one mile radius of my house in Virginia Beach, VA lived enough people for a 4 person carpool.....in the late 70's.
We all worked at the Navy base in Norfolk.
My first civilian job had a large carpool, we rode bus for 60 miles each way.
My next to last civilian job, at a nuke plant west of town, there were 12 to 15 people per vanpool.


Well, bravo for you! That must make you feel very superior to everyone around you eh? :roll:

Listen, this is America, if you want to force me to ride a bus, or rely on someone else's punctuality, and motivation to get to work on time then you can. I like many others out there don't punch a time clock at some drone job where Johnny, Billy, and Jim from the block all work at the same place, and same time.

I deliver bread, and milk to warehouses for distribution 500 to 600 miles one way, and leave, or get to work, as well as get back at different hours of the day/night. Not to mention what this is doing to the prices of those goods that you HAVE TO BUY. I am truly happy for you that you can afford it, and that you worked in a time when the American dream was such that these things were a reality for you. Times have changed.

Truth is closer to this, those who can carpool but don't will be the first to whine about gas prices...

Can everybody car pool? No.....
nor does everybody have to drive a 4x4 truck with one person in it every day to and from work...

And who the hell do you think you are to judge, or tell me what I should, can, or will drive? This is a self imposed shortage of petroleum that we could solve very easily by opening up the permitting process, and obtaining our own resources instead of giving a country like Brazil billions to drill it, and sell it back to us.

j-mac
 
Well, bravo for you! That must make you feel very superior to everyone around you eh? :roll:

Listen, this is America, if you want to force me to ride a bus, or rely on someone else's punctuality, and motivation to get to work on time then you can. I like many others out there don't punch a time clock at some drone job where Johnny, Billy, and Jim from the block all work at the same place, and same time.

I deliver bread, and milk to warehouses for distribution 500 to 600 miles one way, and leave, or get to work, as well as get back at different hours of the day/night. Not to mention what this is doing to the prices of those goods that you HAVE TO BUY. I am truly happy for you that you can afford it, and that you worked in a time when the American dream was such that these things were a reality for you. Times have changed.



And who the hell do you think you are to judge, or tell me what I should, can, or will drive? This is a self imposed shortage of petroleum that we could solve very easily by opening up the permitting process, and obtaining our own resources instead of giving a country like Brazil billions to drill it, and sell it back to us.

j-mac

chill out, dude....
if you want to be part of the regular crowd who knows/does little to nothing about the issue, that is fine. but why complain about it if you aren't willing to help do something about it.
I know times have changed, and now WE have to change our habits.
Maybe YOU can't, but millions of others can, they just won't, because it isn't hurting thier wallets enough yet.
Every source there is will tell you that if we drill for all our easy oil, we will use it up in no time. Then what? The hard to get oil will cost far more than we are paying now.
 
on a day when americans learn that the dept of transportation finds that 4 million of us are trapped in "extreme commutes," those defined as exceeding 90 minutes each way...

as tens of thousands of californians stuck in the commuter parking lot that is 680S over the sunol grade are informed by the sacbee via hottalk560 ("driving bay area liberals crazy")...

California is the only state that provides lawmakers with a car, gas and maintenance paid largely by taxpayers.

The perk has withstood the recessionary economy and several rounds of budget-cutting, including $11.2 billion in measures the Legislature approved and Gov. Jerry Brown signed in March.

Under a long-standing practice, the state Legislature buys a vehicle of each lawmaker's choosing. Legislators pay a share of costs to lease the vehicle, and public funds pay for gas and maintenance.

The legislative car program requires that the vast majority of travel be for business rather than personal use, but it does not monitor that split.

Car perk will get scrutiny - Sacramento Politics - California Politics | Sacramento Bee

1-800-carpool
 
chill out, dude....
if you want to be part of the regular crowd who knows/does little to nothing about the issue, that is fine. but why complain about it if you aren't willing to help do something about it.


I like everyone else pays the price for the goods and services I use. I don't rely on anyone else to help subsidize my living footprint on this planet like so many out there that have been sold in this entitlement society that progressive liberals have addicted America to, therefore I get highly offended when some mamby pamby know it all, societal engineer tries to tell me what I can drive, what I can eat, what I do with my life all for the utopian "greater good".... It is highly pretentious of liberals today to do that, and is absolutely NONE of their business what I do with MY money, or lifestyle as long as no laws are being broken.

I live in a supposedly free country, if you don't like what I drive, or what I eat tough ****!

I know times have changed, and now WE have to change our habits.

Look, I have said it before, and I'll say it again now just for you. I am an "all of the above guy." But don't artificially restrict, and manipulate the price of energy now, and tell me that living on our current sources of energy is at a shortage, or that it isn't possible to obtain more of our own because it'll take too long, when you don't have a replacement that is viable to put in its place for the same if not longer periods of time than that of extracting the energy we are sitting on. Then turn around and artificially pump prices up on the current supply without alternative sources. All that does is lower my standard of living in the hopes of controlling my life choices and stealing my freedom.

Maybe YOU can't, but millions of others can, they just won't, because it isn't hurting thier wallets enough yet.

So you admit that this is an artificial manipulation of pricing by central planners that are hurting the middle class and poor disproportionately.

Every source there is will tell you that if we drill for all our easy oil, we will use it up in no time.

That's BS! You know how I know that? because you speak in absolutes, and unassailable, anonymous speak. There may be sources you read that you agree with that say that, because you agree with them, but you are saying EVERY source. That is total, and utter crap!

Then what? The hard to get oil will cost far more than we are paying now.

Maybe in the hundred plus years that this would possibly occur, we would have the other technology you speak of, abundant, and affordable. But now? Not a shot.

j-mac
 
The experts warned us. The inflation due to low interest rates and devaluing the dollar is upon us with a vengeance. What will Bernanke do now?
 
on a day when americans learn that the dept of transportation finds that 4 million of us are trapped in "extreme commutes," those defined as exceeding 90 minutes each way...

as tens of thousands of californians stuck in the commuter parking lot that is 680S over the sunol grade are informed by the sacbee via hottalk560 ("driving bay area liberals crazy")...



Car perk will get scrutiny - Sacramento Politics - California Politics | Sacramento Bee

1-800-carpool

Have they ever heard of mass transit in California?
 
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