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Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

Importing by itself is not bad, we import from Mexico and Canada, helping our neighbors have a sustainable economy.
Importing from our enemies in the middle east, THAT is bad....

I agree, but not many people that we really don't import that much oil from the middle east, at least no in comparison with Mexico and Canada. Most people also don't realize that we are one of the world's biggest oil producers, third in the world the last time I looked.
 
Senate or Congress?

If congress it was not the dems, if the senate and they used the fillibuster they did?

The Senate blocked drilling in ANWR and Pelosi blocked offshore drilling off the continent.
 
Regarding Jimmy Carter, most people agree he is a moron who got elected becuase no one knew him. Not sure what your complaint is about nuclear other than it isn't used in transportation. If you want to do what Obama is asking you need electric power for all those electric cars. Natural gas is already used in some trucking. It would be somewhat costly to convert diesel trucks to nat gas but we Obama is looking for areas to invest. If there are other alternatives that work we should be in favor of all of the above.

alll those electric cars? they don't exist in numbers large enough to make a difference. I am pro nuclear, as a source of electricity.
There isn't a reasonably priced car on the market that can run on electricity alone. The one thing Pickens and I agree on is using natural gas for trucks. They use professional drivers who can be trained to deal with the safety issues related to natural gas.
Last thing we want if natural gas stations that allow drivers to fill their own tanks. There will be disasters on the news daily.
 
Carter was an engineer, he actually understood the energy issues. Name one politician today who understands any of it, if you can....

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that 1) alternatives aren't mass producable enough to totally replace oil and 2) that we're never going to develop alternative fuels in a dead economy.
 
Carter was an engineer, he actually understood the energy issues. Name one politician today who understands any of it, if you can....

I don't believe Carter was a real engineer. He served on a nuclear submarine as an "engineer" which is completely different.

And... .his "engineering" was over 20 years before he became President.
 
The Senate blocked drilling in ANWR and Pelosi blocked offshore drilling off the continent.

do you mean continental shelf? I doubt pelosi has the power to block drilling off the entire continent.

or can you source your claim?

FYI, I am a trained nuclear power plant operator, and an old car enthusiast. I don't go for horsepower, that is a waste of fuel.
My vehicles get above average mpg, because I know how to drive to get better mpg.
 
do you mean continental shelf? I doubt pelosi has the power to block drilling off the entire continent.

or can you source your claim?

FYI, I am a trained nuclear power plant operator, and an old car enthusiast. I don't go for horsepower, that is a waste of fuel.
My vehicles get above average mpg, because I know how to drive to get better mpg.

WASHINGTON — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Sunday ruled out a vote on new offshore oil drilling even as Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said he might be open to a compromise that included it.

The scramble over expanded drilling off America's coasts — ammunition for a weekend of rat-a-tat-tat by the presidential campaigns — underscores the political power of $4-a-gallon gas. Though President Bush and other backers of new drilling acknowledge it wouldn't directly affect gas prices for years, they have pounded Democrats for opposing the measure, which is now supported by most Americans.
Pelosi firm: No vote on offshore drilling - USATODAY.com
 
I don't believe Carter was a real engineer. He served on a nuclear submarine as an "engineer" which is completely different.

And... .his "engineering" was over 20 years before he became President.

OK, now I know you don't know squat.....about nukes or engineers.
What is YOUR degree in?
The principles of engineering haven't changed much since Archimedes. THe laws of physics haven't either.
I served on a nuclear sub, as an operator. Nuclear power school is hard, some of our dropouts started with 2 years of civilian college behind them.
 
OK, now I know you don't know squat.....about nukes or engineers.
What is YOUR degree in?
The principles of engineering haven't changed much since Archimedes. THe laws of physics haven't either.
I served on a nuclear sub, as an operator. Nuclear power school is hard, some of our dropouts started with 2 years of civilian college behind them.

If he doesn't have an engineering degree and is registered as a P.E., he's not an engineer in anything.

P.S.: I have an engineering degree.
 
There is no reason for this BS since there is no shortage and it looks very much like there won't be one. This is pure price gouging straight up.
 
No I want to start developing alternatives now and create an energy policy of conservation and using our resources more efficiently.

fair enough, but your fantasies do not extend more than a few feet outside your own fulminations

ie, progressive energy policies are kaput in contemporary politics

sorry
 
do you mean continental shelf? I doubt pelosi has the power to block drilling off the entire continent.

or can you source your claim?

FYI, I am a trained nuclear power plant operator, and an old car enthusiast. I don't go for horsepower, that is a waste of fuel.
My vehicles get above average mpg, because I know how to drive to get better mpg.

The government has the power to issue drilling permits for off-continental-shelf drilling operations.
 
Carter was an engineer, he actually understood the energy issues.

LOL!

carter had no understanding of the american people, he was a completely incompetent politician

obama's far worse

SUE, baby, SUE!
 
Duh, that's when she blocked Bush's proposal to drill offshore. Do you think Bush is still President??

wasn't it daddy bush who blocked it in his day?
 
If he doesn't have an engineering degree and is registered as a P.E., he's not an engineer in anything.

P.S.: I have an engineering degree.

I have worked with engineers, some were P.E., passing that test didn't mean they were good engineers.
I have also worked with reactor operators who scared me with their attitude towards their jobs.

Carter may have sucked at foreign policy, but not at engineering. What kind of engineer are you?
 
Carter was an engineer (who) actually understood the energy issues...

and gave us the first failed U.S. national energy "policy," including U.S. Synfuels Corporation:

Launched by President Carter with fanfare in 1980, SFC's mission was to shepherd in a new industry -- one that would tap unconventional resources like coal, tar sands, oil shale and heavy crude to meet future U.S. oil and natural gas needs.

As a sign of its commitment to this mission, Congress had empowered the new investment bank to spend up to $88 billion. While the price tag was high, public sentiment in the wake of Arab-oil embargoes suggested that the independence from foreign oil supplies that it promised was worth every penny.

But dissatisfaction with SFC developed quickly. The Reagan administration complained that the new agency's charter -- providing subsidies to private industry for commercial-scale projects-ran counter to free-market principles. Congressional supporters of the agency in turn challenged the good faith of officers President Reagan nominated to run the bank. (For example, prior to chairing the agency, Edward Noble is widely reorted to have advised President Reagan to abolish the agency.)

Before long, complaints developed over SFC's sluggish activity. The agency had initially been expected to approve up to $20 billion in financial backing of loans and product prices to reach its first milestone: the production of 500,000 barrels of crude-oil equivalent daily by 1987. As of July 1985, however, SFC had committed only $1.2 billion toward three projects--and they would yield less than 2 percent of that 1987 production target Congress had set. Then there were scandals, charges of lavish spending and mismanagement by SFC officials (SN: 8/4/84, p. 74).

Congress kills the U.S. Synfuels Corp | Science News | Find Articles at BNET

After U.S. energy companies and investors wrote off billions of dollars worth of investments in various alternative energy schemes, such as Exxon's $1 billion Colony oil shale project in Colorado and the $1.5 billion Great Plains coal gassification plant in Beulah, N.D., they finally threw in the towel and went back to their knitting: oil and gas.
 
I have worked with engineers, some were P.E., passing that test didn't mean they were good engineers.
I have also worked with reactor operators who scared me with their attitude towards their jobs.

Carter may have sucked at foreign policy, but not at engineering. What kind of engineer are you?

If you are not a registered PE, then you not legally an engineer and can't call yourself one. Engineers are like everyone else, some are good and some are not.
 
We have to hoard our oil. The ME cannot sustain the amount of oil production at current levels indefinitely. When they start to deplete their reservoirs, all Hell's going to break loose. We have to be able to mobilize our armed forces after the ME runs dry.

I will not witness this in my lifetime. But, push will come to shove sometime in the future. Maybe the switch to nuclear fuels will occur seamlessly and maybe it won't. We must conserve our crude oil reserves just in case.

Push already did come to shove. Our forces are already established in the ME. That was the purpose of the invasion and military occupation in Iraq.

Drill baby drill is just a campaign slogan to work up the base uneducated about the fact we passed peak oil in this country in 1971.
 
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and gave us the first failed U.S. national energy "policy," including U.S. Synfuels Corporation:



After U.S. energy companies and investors wrote off billions of dollars worth of investments in various alternative energy schemes, such as Exxon's $1 billion Colony oil shale project in Colorado and the $1.5 billion Great Plains coal gassification plant in Beulah, N.D., they finally threw in the towel and went back to their knitting: oil and gas.

Yeah, nip research in the bud....thanks, Ronnie....
 
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