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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Obama's speech sounds good, but electricity is a much smaller problem than oil. We have multiple ways to produce and conserve electricity, easily, compared to the oil issue.
    Transportation fuels remains the hard to solve problem, the one that keeps us attached to the Arab oil teat....
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Obama's speech sounds good, but electricity is a much smaller problem than oil. We have multiple ways to produce and conserve electricity, easily, compared to the oil issue.
    Transportation fuels remains the hard to solve problem, the one that keeps us attached to the Arab oil teat....

    Not hard at all....Drill.

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not hard at all....Drill.

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    we are drilling....between govt and the oil companies playing games, we aren't drilling enough, and even if we were, a lot of OUR oil is hard to reach, or hard to extract. We WILL PAY MORE for oil.
    What is a lot simpler, helps a lot, and is easily done with no new technology, is conserve.
    As long as we waste it, we deserve to pay more.
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    we are drilling....between govt and the oil companies playing games, we aren't drilling enough, and even if we were, a lot of OUR oil is hard to reach, or hard to extract. We WILL PAY MORE for oil.
    What is a lot simpler, helps a lot, and is easily done with no new technology, is conserve.
    As long as we waste it, we deserve to pay more.

    Wrong. We have the resources to tap into right now, that the Obama administration, and the activists now running the EPA are actively blocking the permitting and extraction or exploration of our own resources. Until you can explain to me why it is that this isn't a political man made shortage to control the population into adopting some green energy fantasies, then you are really just screaming up wind in a hurricane.

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wrong. We have the resources to tap into right now, that the Obama administration, and the activists now running the EPA are actively blocking the permitting and extraction or exploration of our own resources. Until you can explain to me why it is that this isn't a political man made shortage to control the population into adopting some green energy fantasies, then you are really just screaming up wind in a hurricane.

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    there are no green energy alternatives to oil.......for electricity yes, but not oil, so this population control thing is itself a fantasy..
    There is a supplement to gasoline and diesel fuels, natural gas, but not enough infrastructure to support it...
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    there are no green energy alternatives to oil.......for electricity yes, but not oil, so this population control thing is itself a fantasy..
    I got news for ya, this green thing for electric is a fantasy as well. Tell me Bill, how much electric power generation right now in the US is powered by Wind, or Solar?

    There is a supplement to gasoline and diesel fuels, natural gas, but not enough infrastructure to support it...
    Why not? Ever ask yourself that Bill? We have known for decades that Natural Gas could power internal combustion engines yet we have forsaken that tech to what? Evilly use up all the oil? Oh, and there is plenty of oil in the ground, the ability to extract it is only held back by how much of it is allowed through regulation and such. This thing is man made, and a tax on us, imposed by wrong thinking people who yes, use this as a means to control your life.

    Consider on CNN yesterday:

    John Hofmeister, Former President of Shell Oil, on CNN’s “State of the Union”
    CROWLEY: Is there something Americans can actually do, other than just pony up at the pump?

    HOFMEISTER: No, really there isn't. I mean, yes, you can inflate your tires. Yes, you can keep your engine tuned up. That will have a marginal impact. The reality is, we're citizens and we're consumers. As citizens, the public voice of the citizenry saying to the U.S. Congress and to the president, look, you're not doing what this country needs to be done, which is to look after our own energy needs first. And if that means more domestic production, then, by golly, let's go produce more domestically because don't we matter?

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I got news for ya, this green thing for electric is a fantasy as well. Tell me Bill, how much electric power generation right now in the US is powered by Wind, or Solar?



    Why not? Ever ask yourself that Bill? We have known for decades that Natural Gas could power internal combustion engines yet we have forsaken that tech to what? Evilly use up all the oil? Oh, and there is plenty of oil in the ground, the ability to extract it is only held back by how much of it is allowed through regulation and such. This thing is man made, and a tax on us, imposed by wrong thinking people who yes, use this as a means to control your life.

    Consider on CNN yesterday:



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    It isn't NEWS to me, I know that the so-called alternatives for electricity are mere supplements....an alternative fuel for electric generation has to closely match the original fuel in capabilites.
    We have known for decades that NG is viable to replace diesel and gasoline, but where is the gas drilled and where are its customers? If we live in a major city that already has NG piped to it, all we have to do is modify the engine fuel management system a bit, and add a NG tank. We can't let just anybody fill their own tank, tho. Same as propane, gaseous fuels are too dangerous for grandma to fill her own tank.
    We can run pipelines across country, one is being built now right thru northern Utah, but outside of pipes, NG must be compressed to become liquid NG, or LNG, and trucked, or shipped. Otherwise, the delivery expense is too high.
    Once delivered to a "gas" station, it must be stored compressed which involves special tanks. Very expensive this new infrastructure is, says Yoda....
    What gas station has the room for these new tanks, not to mention the customers willing to trade in a high energy density fuel for a low energy density fuel? Arizona did the ALTFUELS thing, cost the taxpayers half a billion, and most of the cars/trucks were modified to run on either gasoline or NG. OF course, gasoline stations are everywhere, NG stations are not, so where do they go? to the gasoline station....
    NG used for local trucking is the most obvious BEST USE for NG, and it would make a dent in our oil issie.
    Long haul trucking will remain diesel for a long time.
    Long story short, I don't disagree that we should ramp up local drilling, just saying that it shouldn't be the only tool we use to fix what is broken in our transportation fuel issues. Conservation is a big tool that nobody wants to talk about.
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wrong. We have the resources to tap into right now, that the Obama administration, and the activists now running the EPA are actively blocking the permitting and extraction or exploration of our own resources. Until you can explain to me why it is that this isn't a political man made shortage to control the population into adopting some green energy fantasies, then you are really just screaming up wind in a hurricane.

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    Ah, another conspiracy of both parties dating back 40 years. Got it!
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Ah, another conspiracy of both parties dating back 40 years. Got it!
    the shadow govt controlling both parties needs to learn to herd cats before they take on attempting to control humans....
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