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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Ok, let's go with unemployment then.

    The U3 unemployment rate under Bush for his first 26 months increased by a whopping 41%, under Obama, the U3 unemployment rate has increased only 14%.

    So by that measure, Obama is doing better than Bush.

    Damn, proving you wrong couldn't have been easier.

    Might we have a link to what you are offering here? See, Bush was contending with more forces outside his control that Obama's self imposed, nation destroying ones.

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Within a one mile radius of my house in Virginia Beach, VA lived enough people for a 4 person carpool.....in the late 70's.
    We all worked at the Navy base in Norfolk.
    My first civilian job had a large carpool, we rode bus for 60 miles each way.
    My next to last civilian job, at a nuke plant west of town, there were 12 to 15 people per vanpool.

    Well, bravo for you! That must make you feel very superior to everyone around you eh?

    Listen, this is America, if you want to force me to ride a bus, or rely on someone else's punctuality, and motivation to get to work on time then you can. I like many others out there don't punch a time clock at some drone job where Johnny, Billy, and Jim from the block all work at the same place, and same time.

    I deliver bread, and milk to warehouses for distribution 500 to 600 miles one way, and leave, or get to work, as well as get back at different hours of the day/night. Not to mention what this is doing to the prices of those goods that you HAVE TO BUY. I am truly happy for you that you can afford it, and that you worked in a time when the American dream was such that these things were a reality for you. Times have changed.

    Truth is closer to this, those who can carpool but don't will be the first to whine about gas prices...

    Can everybody car pool? No.....
    nor does everybody have to drive a 4x4 truck with one person in it every day to and from work...
    And who the hell do you think you are to judge, or tell me what I should, can, or will drive? This is a self imposed shortage of petroleum that we could solve very easily by opening up the permitting process, and obtaining our own resources instead of giving a country like Brazil billions to drill it, and sell it back to us.

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, bravo for you! That must make you feel very superior to everyone around you eh?

    Listen, this is America, if you want to force me to ride a bus, or rely on someone else's punctuality, and motivation to get to work on time then you can. I like many others out there don't punch a time clock at some drone job where Johnny, Billy, and Jim from the block all work at the same place, and same time.

    I deliver bread, and milk to warehouses for distribution 500 to 600 miles one way, and leave, or get to work, as well as get back at different hours of the day/night. Not to mention what this is doing to the prices of those goods that you HAVE TO BUY. I am truly happy for you that you can afford it, and that you worked in a time when the American dream was such that these things were a reality for you. Times have changed.



    And who the hell do you think you are to judge, or tell me what I should, can, or will drive? This is a self imposed shortage of petroleum that we could solve very easily by opening up the permitting process, and obtaining our own resources instead of giving a country like Brazil billions to drill it, and sell it back to us.

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    chill out, dude....
    if you want to be part of the regular crowd who knows/does little to nothing about the issue, that is fine. but why complain about it if you aren't willing to help do something about it.
    I know times have changed, and now WE have to change our habits.
    Maybe YOU can't, but millions of others can, they just won't, because it isn't hurting thier wallets enough yet.
    Every source there is will tell you that if we drill for all our easy oil, we will use it up in no time. Then what? The hard to get oil will cost far more than we are paying now.
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What are you talking about?
    Just what I said

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    on a day when americans learn that the dept of transportation finds that 4 million of us are trapped in "extreme commutes," those defined as exceeding 90 minutes each way...

    as tens of thousands of californians stuck in the commuter parking lot that is 680S over the sunol grade are informed by the sacbee via hottalk560 ("driving bay area liberals crazy")...

    California is the only state that provides lawmakers with a car, gas and maintenance paid largely by taxpayers.

    The perk has withstood the recessionary economy and several rounds of budget-cutting, including $11.2 billion in measures the Legislature approved and Gov. Jerry Brown signed in March.

    Under a long-standing practice, the state Legislature buys a vehicle of each lawmaker's choosing. Legislators pay a share of costs to lease the vehicle, and public funds pay for gas and maintenance.

    The legislative car program requires that the vast majority of travel be for business rather than personal use, but it does not monitor that split.
    Car perk will get scrutiny - Sacramento Politics - California Politics | Sacramento Bee

    1-800-carpool

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    chill out, dude....
    if you want to be part of the regular crowd who knows/does little to nothing about the issue, that is fine. but why complain about it if you aren't willing to help do something about it.

    I like everyone else pays the price for the goods and services I use. I don't rely on anyone else to help subsidize my living footprint on this planet like so many out there that have been sold in this entitlement society that progressive liberals have addicted America to, therefore I get highly offended when some mamby pamby know it all, societal engineer tries to tell me what I can drive, what I can eat, what I do with my life all for the utopian "greater good".... It is highly pretentious of liberals today to do that, and is absolutely NONE of their business what I do with MY money, or lifestyle as long as no laws are being broken.

    I live in a supposedly free country, if you don't like what I drive, or what I eat tough ****!

    I know times have changed, and now WE have to change our habits.
    Look, I have said it before, and I'll say it again now just for you. I am an "all of the above guy." But don't artificially restrict, and manipulate the price of energy now, and tell me that living on our current sources of energy is at a shortage, or that it isn't possible to obtain more of our own because it'll take too long, when you don't have a replacement that is viable to put in its place for the same if not longer periods of time than that of extracting the energy we are sitting on. Then turn around and artificially pump prices up on the current supply without alternative sources. All that does is lower my standard of living in the hopes of controlling my life choices and stealing my freedom.

    Maybe YOU can't, but millions of others can, they just won't, because it isn't hurting thier wallets enough yet.
    So you admit that this is an artificial manipulation of pricing by central planners that are hurting the middle class and poor disproportionately.

    Every source there is will tell you that if we drill for all our easy oil, we will use it up in no time.
    That's BS! You know how I know that? because you speak in absolutes, and unassailable, anonymous speak. There may be sources you read that you agree with that say that, because you agree with them, but you are saying EVERY source. That is total, and utter crap!

    Then what? The hard to get oil will cost far more than we are paying now.
    Maybe in the hundred plus years that this would possibly occur, we would have the other technology you speak of, abundant, and affordable. But now? Not a shot.

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post

    Where's Schmucky Chucky Schumer, and Barbara Boxer standing outside Gas stations on the evening news today the same way they were when Bush was in office and Gas prices hit these types of highs?

    Funny, they seem silent on this now....

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    today: Gas prices up 20% since january/CNN

    what's gonna happen when we reach summer?

    worry

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    and it's not just gas, as aware watchers have witnessed for weeks

    Corn prices at highest level since summer '08 - BusinessWeek

    silver's at a 31 year hi, oil 30 month hi, wheat up 4%...

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