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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The reviewers who had questioned it are satisfied.
    they sure are

    LOL!

    obama's own spill panel and the interior dept's ig are satisfied that the white house's handling of the bp was "not fully competent" and "not fully candid," that it "misled the public" by rewriting the recommendations of a supposedly independent group of engineers, according to the engineers, and passed off as peer reviewed its political garbage

    meanwhile, class haters stuck in 1971 probably aren't aware of wapo's revelation that obama's epa EXEMPTED the deepwater horizon from its mandated environmental impact studies...

    because the story appeared in may, 2010

    U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study

    who's got whom in whose pocket?

    it all comes down to character
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Oh yes I've heard of it, so you are talking about the continuation of the Carter policy of funding and training those people in Afghanistan to fight the Russians?
    To a point

    But the US government under Reagan made specific policy decisions that included Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to form the resistance against the USSR as a religous jihad. Training guides developed in the US during that time were/are still being used in the relgious schools of in the region. This was a policy decision made after the Carter admin was gone
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    they sure are

    LOL!

    obama's own spill panel and the interior dept's ig are satisfied that the white house's handling of the bp was "not fully competent" and "not fully candid," that it "misled the public" by rewriting the recommendations of a supposedly independent group of engineers, according to the engineers, and passed off as peer reviewed its political garbage

    meanwhile, class haters stuck in 1971 probably aren't aware of wapo's revelelation that obama's epa EXEMPTED the deepwater horizon from its mandated environmental impact studies...

    because the story appeared in may, 2010

    U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study

    who's got whom in whose pocket?

    it all comes down to character
    So is Obama in the pocket of big oil and allows them to run wild poluting the environment or is he against big oil suppressing exploration?

    It gets so confusing when people present both as an arguement within the same thread
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    oppps now wait a minute ... according to you liberals, there were no terrorist in Iraq, that is why we shouldn't have gone there .. So Hussein had nothing to do with terrorism ..

    And this is the policy that held sway? Are you agreeing now that we killed tens of thousands of Iraqis opposing our occupation and just called them terrorists?
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    So is Obama in the pocket of big oil and allows them to run wild poluting the environment or is he against big oil suppressing exploration?

    It gets so confusing when people present both as an arguement within the same thread
    it is what it is, there's really no argument made, just the laying forth of the narrative and the asking of a simple question

    obama's own spill panel concluded he was incompetent and not candid, he misled, he rewrote, he tried to pass off as peer reviewed

    his epa exempted the deepwater from the studies, says wapo

    who's in whose pocket?

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    And this is the policy that held sway? Are you agreeing now that we killed tens of thousands of Iraqis opposing our occupation and just called them terrorists?
    "YOU" are the one saying there were terrorist there no I ... so don't deflect .. just answer the question yes or no?

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    To a point

    But the US government under Reagan made specific policy decisions that included Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to form the resistance against the USSR as a religous jihad. Training guides developed in the US during that time were/are still being used in the relgious schools of in the region. This was a policy decision made after the Carter admin was gone

    Again not disagreeing, but it was still a continuation of Carters policy to draw the Russians into that war, good policy or bad ..... at the time ... it was a good policy, now if you could go forward 20 years after the fact and look back ... maybe not a good policy. Unfortunately no president has the grace of hindsight to guide them in their decision making. However you also have to look at the result of what Carter and Reagan accomplished by doing what they did, the war in Afghanistan was a major player in the demise of Russia.

    But back to the point, if you are going to blame Reagan for helping to build terrorism, they you have to say the same thing about Carter

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    they sure are

    LOL!

    obama's own spill panel and the interior dept's ig are satisfied that the white house's handling of the bp was "not fully competent" and "not fully candid," that it "misled the public" by rewriting the recommendations of a supposedly independent group of engineers, according to the engineers, and passed off as peer reviewed its political garbage

    meanwhile, class haters stuck in 1971 probably aren't aware of wapo's revelation that obama's epa EXEMPTED the deepwater horizon from its mandated environmental impact studies...

    because the story appeared in may, 2010

    U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study

    who's got whom in whose pocket?

    it all comes down to character
    BP and its employees have given more than $3.5 million to federal candidates over the past 20 years, with the largest chunk of their money going to Obama, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

    During his time in the Senate and while running for president, Obama received a total of $77,051 from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years, according to financial disclosure records.

    But this is Obama's reply

    An Obama spokesman rejected the notion that the president took big oil money.

    So of course to libby;s thats all it takes .. Obama didn't take it .. no matter what the records show

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Again not disagreeing, but it was still a continuation of Carters policy to draw the Russians into that war, good policy or bad ..... at the time ... it was a good policy, now if you could go forward 20 years after the fact and look back ... maybe not a good policy. Unfortunately no president has the grace of hindsight to guide them in their decision making. However you also have to look at the result of what Carter and Reagan accomplished by doing what they did, the war in Afghanistan was a major player in the demise of Russia.

    But back to the point, if you are going to blame Reagan for helping to build terrorism, they you have to say the same thing about Carter
    It would be the specific policy of promoting it as a religous struggle and the creatition of training guides that would be the part about promoting/building terrorism (specifically the current islamic terrorism the US is fighting against).

    That policy to my knowledge was a Reagan admin one, not Carter. So while the initial policy of the Carter admin was to draw the USSR into a large scale invasion of Afghanistan, it would be Reagan admin policies that turned it into a Jihad setting the foundations for todays radical sunni terrorism the US is fighting
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    It would be the specific policy of promoting it as a religous struggle and the creatition of training guides that would be the part about promoting/building terrorism (specifically the current islamic terrorism the US is fighting against).

    That policy to my knowledge was a Reagan admin one, not Carter. So while the initial policy of the Carter admin was to draw the USSR into a large scale invasion of Afghanistan, it would be Reagan admin policies that turned it into a Jihad setting the foundations for todays radical sunni terrorism the US is fighting
    Well you keep saying that ... you still haven't presented what those polices were ..... are you talking about funding ? giving them arms ?? if so .. .those things also had to go through congress did they not ? And who controlled congress at the time ... I did find this in my search .. Congressman Charlie Wilson, a member of the House Appropriations Committee who was a democrat ... was a huge supporter of helping along the rebels in Afghanistan..... in fact he is given a lot of credit for that funding....

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