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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

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    He has a bachelors of science from the Naval Academy..in physics. So I guess you are right, his degree is not actually an engineering degree. It is better....
    He completed the Navy Nuclear power school program, a year long school. To get a job as a reactor operator at a civilian power plant, you must have a degree in engineering or science, OR have completed Navy Nuclear Power School. So enlisted ranks like me have the equivalent education as an engineer when it comes to doing that job.

    This thread isn't about his failed foreign policies, why do you bring that up? If you weren't so blindly addicted to the conservative flavor koolaid, you wouldn't be dissing Jimmy. Or are you getting burned about some of us saying that Reagan shouldn't have spit on the only energy policy we ever had?

    Oh yes, it was wonderful.....21% interest rates on new cars, and homes. Artificial shortages of gas. Only being able to fuel up on odd or even days. Being told if you're cold put on a sweater.....What a genius.


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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh yes, it was wonderful.....21% interest rates on new cars, and homes. Artificial shortages of gas. Only being able to fuel up on odd or even days. Being told if you're cold put on a sweater.....What a genius.


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    Interest rates have what to do with an energy policy?
    I don't even have an engineering degree, but I pay far less in energy bills than most, and most includes a lot of engineers.
    I don't wear sweaters, but do sometimes put on an extra layer of clothing.
    Conservation of existing energy sources should be a major part of any energy policy. Or do you like wasting energy and money?
    Google Carter energy policy, lots of great organizations praise him for the effort. But I suppose you have the skills to do better? If so, tell us your energy plan...
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    He has a bachelors of science from the Naval Academy..in physics. So I guess you are right, his degree is not actually an engineering degree. It is better....
    He completed the Navy Nuclear power school program, a year long school. To get a job as a reactor operator at a civilian power plant, you must have a degree in engineering or science, OR have completed Navy Nuclear Power School. So enlisted ranks like me have the equivalent education as an engineer when it comes to doing that job.

    This thread isn't about his failed foreign policies, why do you bring that up? If you weren't so blindly addicted to the conservative flavor koolaid, you wouldn't be dissing Jimmy. Or are you getting burned about some of us saying that Reagan shouldn't have spit on the only energy policy we ever had?

    BTW, what degree do you have? from where? Or is that classified still?

    I know 2 guys working as civil engineers, one has his PE license. One has a degree in accounting, the other in something else that I don't remember, but it isn't engineering.
    Maybe that PE exam isn't so hard?
    Glad you finally admit he wasn't an engineer. I would call him a peanut farmer since that's what he did most of his life before going on the public dole.

    This thread is about the price of oil. Carter's failed foriegn policies laid the groundwork and enabled OPEC to become as powerful as it is today.

    Do you mean the energy policy that his own party refused to implement ???

    If your buddy has a degree in accounting, he can't take the PE exam and can't be a civil engineer. You can't claim to be a civil engineer unless you have passed the PE exam and are registered by the state.

    I have a degree in engineering, but that is all you will get from me. I only disclose limited personal information here.

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Glad you finally admit he wasn't an engineer. I would call him a peanut farmer since that's what he did most of his life before going on the public dole.

    This thread is about the price of oil. Carter's failed foriegn policies laid the groundwork and enabled OPEC to become as powerful as it is today.

    Do you mean the energy policy that his own party refused to implement ???

    If your buddy has a degree in accounting, he can't take the PE exam and can't be a civil engineer. You can't claim to be a civil engineer unless you have passed the PE exam and are registered by the state.

    I have a degree in engineering, but that is all you will get from me. I only disclose limited personal information here.
    You can't even say what your major was? What are you really? An engineer by day and super hero by night?
    Google PE, wikipedia says in some states you can bypass step 1...the engineering degree.
    Yes, the thread is about oil.
    The fact that only one president ever tried to implement an energy policy is more related to this thread than your opinion of his "failed" presidency.
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    You can't even say what your major was? What are you really? An engineer by day and super hero by night?
    Google PE, wikipedia says in some states you can bypass step 1...the engineering degree.
    Yes, the thread is about oil.
    The fact that only one president ever tried to implement an energy policy is more related to this thread than your opinion of his "failed" presidency.
    Yes, a couple of states still allow one to take the PE exam with 25 years of experience, but the number of states allowing this is getting less and less. Furthermore, other states don't recognize their license, so it is virtually worthless.

    No, at night I am a husband, father, and grandfather. That's why you will almost never see me post here on nights and weekends.

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh yes, it was wonderful.....21% interest rates on new cars, and homes. Artificial shortages of gas. Only being able to fuel up on odd or even days. Being told if you're cold put on a sweater.....What a genius.


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    Not to mention, no record deficits, no housing collapse, no uneccesary wars, no worst attack on US soil in history, no bank bailouts, no record number of foreclosures and bankruptcies, no record unemployment, no loss of millions of jobs overseas, no massive consumer debt and no trade deficit.
    Only a total moron could blame a president for interest rates. The FED sets interest rates. Hello?
    As for high gas prices and shortages, they began during the first arab oil embargo under Nixon and so did runaway inflation.
    It's funny how fools clamn Carter was such a horrible president by constantly pointing out his high interest rates and gas prices, two things a president has no control over.
    Put a sweater on? Another ignorant statement.
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    That is the concept of the energy policy we will present on Wednesday. Our national energy plan is based on ten fundamental principles.

    The first principle is that we can have an effective and comprehensive energy policy only if the government takes responsibility for it and if the people understand the seriousness of the challenge and are willing to make sacrifices.

    The second principle is that healthy economic growth must continue. Only by saving energy can we maintain our standard of living and keep our people at work. An effective conservation program will create hundreds of thousands of new jobs.

    The third principle is that we must protect the environment. Our energy problems have the same cause as our environmental problems -- wasteful use of resources. Conservation helps us solve both at once.

    The fourth principle is that we must reduce our vulnerability to potentially devastating embargoes. We can protect ourselves from uncertain supplies by reducing our demand for oil, making the most of our abundant resources such as coal, and developing a strategic petroleum reserve.

    The fifth principle is that we must be fair. Our solutions must ask equal sacrifices from every region, every class of people, every interest group. Industry will have to do its part to conserve, just as the consumers will. The energy producers deserve fair treatment, but we will not let the oil companies profiteer.

    The sixth principle, and the cornerstone of our policy, is to reduce the demand through conservation. Our emphasis on conservation is a clear difference between this plan and others which merely encouraged crash production efforts. Conservation is the quickest, cheapest, most practical source of energy. Conservation is the only way we can buy a barrel of oil for a few dollars. It costs about $13 to waste it.

    The seventh principle is that prices should generally reflect the true replacement costs of energy. We are only cheating ourselves if we make energy artificially cheap and use more than we can really afford.

    The eighth principle is that government policies must be predictable and certain. Both consumers and producers need policies they can count on so they can plan ahead. This is one reason I am working with the Congress to create a new Department of Energy, to replace more than 50 different agencies that now have some control over energy.

    The ninth principle is that we must conserve the fuels that are scarcest and make the most of those that are more plentiful. We can't continue to use oil and gas for 75 percent of our consumption when they make up seven percent of our domestic reserves. We need to shift to plentiful coal while taking care to protect the environment, and to apply stricter safety standards to nuclear energy.

    The tenth principle is that we must start now to develop the new, unconventional sources of energy we will rely on in the next century.

    These ten principles have guided the development of the policy I would describe to you and the Congress on Wednesday.

    Our energy plan will also include a number of specific goals, to measure our progress toward a stable energy system.

    These are the goals we set for 1985:

    -Reduce the annual growth rate in our energy demand to less than two percent.

    -Reduce gasoline consumption by ten percent below its current level.

    -Cut in half the portion of United States oil which is imported, from a potential level of 16 million barrels to six million barrels a day.

    -Establish a strategic petroleum reserve of one billion barrels, more than six months' supply.

    -Increase our coal production by about two thirds to more than 1 billion tons a year.

    -Insulate 90 percent of American homes and all new buildings.

    -Use solar energy in more than two and one-half million house
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

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    Yes, a couple of states still allow one to take the PE exam with 25 years of experience, but the number of states allowing this is getting less and less. Furthermore, other states don't recognize their license, so it is virtually worthless.

    No, at night I am a husband, father, and grandfather. That's why you will almost never see me post here on nights and weekends.
    you post from work?
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Interest rates have what to do with an energy policy?
    I don't even have an engineering degree, but I pay far less in energy bills than most, and most includes a lot of engineers.
    I don't wear sweaters, but do sometimes put on an extra layer of clothing.
    Conservation of existing energy sources should be a major part of any energy policy. Or do you like wasting energy and money?
    Google Carter energy policy, lots of great organizations praise him for the effort. But I suppose you have the skills to do better? If so, tell us your energy plan...

    My energy plan? I wasn't aware I needed to have hammered out my own policy. Isn't that what we elect people for? See Bill, this is that equivalence argument, or should I say fallacy that you liberals love to hang on to. I don't need to be a cop or lawyer to argue laws and policies, I don't need to be a Nuclear engineer to hold an opinion on Nuclear energy, I don't need to be a real estate expert to buy a house, I offer my opinions on things using what God gave me, and that is a sense of reason, and the ability to learn things. What you do is only try and stifle that opinion by using the silly argument of equivalence that only serves the purpose to show reasoned persons that you have lost the argument.

    Thanks for playin'.....


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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    Not to mention, no record deficits, no housing collapse, no uneccesary wars, no worst attack on US soil in history, no bank bailouts, no record number of foreclosures and bankruptcies, no record unemployment, no loss of millions of jobs overseas, no massive consumer debt and no trade deficit.
    Only a total moron could blame a president for interest rates. The FED sets interest rates. Hello?
    As for high gas prices and shortages, they began during the first arab oil embargo under Nixon and so did runaway inflation.
    It's funny how fools clamn Carter was such a horrible president by constantly pointing out his high interest rates and gas prices, two things a president has no control over.
    No record unemployment ???? You really need to read up a little on the late 1970s.

    Don't you remember reading that unemployment under Obama is the worst it's been since the early 1980s. That's the recession that Carter started and Reagan ended.

    Carter also had the highest Misery Index of any president in history.
    Misery index (economics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    Not to mention, no record deficits, no housing collapse, no uneccesary wars, no worst attack on US soil in history, no bank bailouts, no record number of foreclosures and bankruptcies, no record unemployment, no loss of millions of jobs overseas, no massive consumer debt and no trade deficit.
    Only a total moron could blame a president for interest rates. The FED sets interest rates. Hello?
    As for high gas prices and shortages, they began during the first arab oil embargo under Nixon and so did runaway inflation.
    It's funny how fools clamn Carter was such a horrible president by constantly pointing out his high interest rates and gas prices, two things a president has no control over.
    please don't demean morons in this way....
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