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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Priorities... those who don't set them, fail miserably, and bring nothing but cheap rhetoric in the guise of moderation.
    I agree, priorities need to be set. But you bring plenty of cheap rhetoric yourself with your political labeing of people who disagree with you. You are starting to sound like NP, who calls those who disagree with him his left wing friend....
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    show where I quoted him, came to his rescue.....what about my statements are enigmatic?
    I have considerable knowledge on the topic and other energy related issues. It is what I have done since 1966....
    Then you know better than anyone else the cost needed to convert even 20% of our current gasoline/diesel vehicles to electric, and the shortcomings of the battery packs used to power vehicles. Given the country's economic state, as well as the economic state of Europe - investment of that magnitude at this time is irresponsible. When our spending, deficts and econmic spending has been reversed, then I can see investment of alternatives engery sources using government money. Don't get me wrong, if private corporations or private money wants to do what you want, I'm all for it as they do it in the market place.

    Priorities. Given your extensive career - you must understand that fossile fuels for the next 20 years at least, will dominate in the United States and that's a very very conservative time frame.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I agree, priorities need to be set. But you bring plenty of cheap rhetoric yourself with your political labeing of people who disagree with you. You are starting to sound like NP, who calls those who disagree with him his left wing friend....
    Worry less about who I sound like and discuss the topic... when cheap rhetoric is thrown at me, I throw it back as it litters my computer screen. Got it?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Then you know better than anyone else the cost needed to convert even 20% of our current gasoline/diesel vehicles to electric, and the shortcomings of the battery packs used to power vehicles. Given the country's economic state, as well as the economic state of Europe - investment of that magnitude at this time is irresponsible. When our spending, deficts and econmic spending has been reversed, then I can see investment of alternatives engery sources using government money. Don't get me wrong, if private corporations or private money wants to do what you want, I'm all for it as they do it in the market place.

    Priorities. Given your extensive career - you must understand that fossile fuels for the next 20 years at least, will dominate in the United States and that's a very very conservative time frame.
    Yes, I do, where did I say different?
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Worry less about who I sound like and discuss the topic... when cheap rhetoric is thrown at me, I throw it back as it litters my computer screen. Got it?
    Discuss the topic and drop your political posturing, it clutters my screen, and yours.....got it?

    Are you trying to sound arrogant, on purpose, or is it just a character flaw?
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Yes, I do, where did I say different?
    I have not claimed you said any different - I said that to gain your agreement which you've given. You apparently threw in because you don't like my world view and outlook - then took cheap shots youself about conservatives not wanting to conserve, which was exactly what I WAS doing ... yet you thought of how did you put it, "buzz words" which make me sound like Glen Beck?

    If you don't have a problem with my last statement and you agree... what's your problem then?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nonsense. When I started driving truck some 20 years ago, I worked for Schwans home delivery. Crappy job, but their trucks even back then were powered by propane. We filled them ourselves, and I saw really very little difference between them and diesel trucks.


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    Are you really going to let your grandmother fill her own natural gas tank?

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

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    I thought you might be interested (at least a little) in this:

    2010 Native S Review - Motorcycle.com

    So you think I want a quiet motorcycle so no one knows I am there so I get run over? I will keep my loud Harley

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I have not claimed you said any different - I said that to gain your agreement which you've given. You apparently threw in because you don't like my world view and outlook - then took cheap shots youself about conservatives not wanting to conserve, which was exactly what I WAS doing ... yet you thought of how did you put it, "buzz words" which make me sound like Glen Beck?

    If you don't have a problem with my last statement and you agree... what's your problem then?
    You over reacted to my suggestion in post 311 that by dropping the labeling you might have more credibility....or words to that effect. If you want to, go back and look it up. So, what is YOUR problem? Can't take advice?
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    By passing a revision to the CAFE standards as soon as we put them in control of Congress:

    " The most recent revision of CAFE that passed in 2007 no longer exempts light trucks classified as SUVs or passenger vans, unless they exceed 10,000 lb (4,500 kg) GVWR; it applies to pickup trucks and cargo vans up to 8,500 lb (3,900 kg)."
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    I see make us use ethanol that lowers MPG and then expect the auto industry to still find ways to increase mileage. Shows how stupid these GW environmentalists are

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