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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Yes, Carter....like I said, he had an energy plan. No other president since has even come close. Carter was an engineer, he understood energy issues far better than any president since.
    Come close? he installs a couple of solar panels, and tells the American people to put on a sweater, meanwhile places price controls on fuel and causes a gas shortage? That is the best ever in your mind?


    Coal producing states will have to find ways to use coal in other ways. I looked it up once, there are lots of other uses for coal.
    OR, instead of digging for coal, plant pot. There will always be a market for good pot...

    IOW, screw the coal producing states, got it.....


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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Come close? he installs a couple of solar panels, and tells the American people to put on a sweater, meanwhile places price controls on fuel and causes a gas shortage? That is the best ever in your mind?





    IOW, screw the coal producing states, got it.....


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    How did he cause oil shortages? by pissing off the OPEC countries, maybe?

    Coal producing states should be protected from economic reality? What are you, some kind of socialist?
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Come close? he installs a couple of solar panels, and tells the American people to put on a sweater, meanwhile places price controls on fuel and causes a gas shortage? That is the best ever in your mind?





    IOW, screw the coal producing states, got it.....


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    Ever hear of the algae to diesel project? started under the Carter administration, still going even tho its budget was cut by Reagan. Looks promising..
    There was other research as well, perhaps you could google it.
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    3.10 a gallon here. I thought when Bush and Cheney got sent packing this oil choke-hold on America would lessen.

    Maybe we should double our wheat prices, and any other thing those middle-easterner's need from us.
    WTF? Maybe a boycott like Carter, eh? That way the Canadians and Russian can sell them wheat.
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    All of this translates into a reduction in the average American standard of living. It will embitter people.

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Ever hear of the algae to diesel project? started under the Carter administration, still going even tho its budget was cut by Reagan. Looks promising..
    There was other research as well, perhaps you could google it.
    I would like to school you on energy issues, but if I do it for you, I will have to do it for all the others..
    There is an even better technology on the horizon. In 2008, scientists genetically modified a bacterium so that it eats garbage and craps out oil. This is not science fiction. Once the technology is further developed, an area the size of Chicago could create enough oil to run the entire transportation infrastructure, and would permanently end our dependence on foreign oil. Imagine how our trade balance would be affected if we did not need to import a single barrel of oil. This development is HUGE. If we can do this, then we can tell OPEC nations to go eat their oil, as we would have THEM over a barrel - A barrel of food.
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I didn't know that Obama had the power to set oil prices....or manufacture a crisis...

    We need to tax gasoline more. Due to better mileage, we use less of it, tax revenues are down.
    Back in the 70's, the liberal left forced govt to force car makers to make their engines burn fuel cleaner, to lessen pollution. We all know that is an evil leftist plot to make us breathe cleaner air. Side effects, also evil, was that the cars get better gas mileage and produce more power and torque. And of course, less fuel purchased, less tax revenues to maintain our roads and bridges. An evil plot to make the USA a lesser economic power in the world. We will probably become a debtor nation soon, oh , wait, we already are.
    Imagine if the liberal left also forces govt to force construction companies to build with better building codes that are aimed at making those buildings use only half the energy they do now....
    We would need less fuel to make electricity, less natural gas to heat the buildings, and we could probably stop using coal altogether...
    All evil plots..surely we are doomed.
    Millions on unemployment and you want to put a bigger economic problem on them.

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    How did he cause oil shortages? by pissing off the OPEC countries, maybe?

    Coal producing states should be protected from economic reality? What are you, some kind of socialist?

    Obama has stopped any new drilling

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I didn't know that Obama had the power to set oil prices....or manufacture a crisis...
    Not directly, but he did shut down drilling in the GOM.

    We need to tax gasoline more. Due to better mileage, we use less of it, tax revenues are down.
    Actually, we're using less fuel, because the economy is in the crapper and nobody's working. A higher gas tax would only make things worse. A better idea would be for the government to get out of the way and let everyone go back to work.

    Back in the 70's, the liberal left forced govt to force car makers to make their engines burn fuel cleaner, to lessen pollution. We all know that is an evil leftist plot to make us breathe cleaner air. Side effects, also evil, was that the cars get better gas mileage and produce more power and torque. And of course, less fuel purchased, less tax revenues to maintain our roads and bridges. An evil plot to make the USA a lesser economic power in the world. We will probably become a debtor nation soon, oh , wait, we already are.
    Imagine if the liberal left also forces govt to force construction companies to build with better building codes that are aimed at making those buildings use only half the energy they do now....
    We would need less fuel to make electricity, less natural gas to heat the buildings, and we could probably stop using coal altogether...
    All evil plots..surely we are doomed.
    You mean, like the catalitic converter, which causes and engine to get less fuel economy? How about all the computerized crap on engines nowadays, that raised the cost of a vehicle and tripled the cost of a mechanic bill. Those were such wonderful ideas.
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    There is an even better technology on the horizon. In 2008, scientists genetically modified a bacterium so that it eats garbage and craps out oil. This is not science fiction. Once the technology is further developed, an area the size of Chicago could create enough oil to run the entire transportation infrastructure, and would permanently end our dependence on foreign oil. Imagine how our trade balance would be affected if we did not need to import a single barrel of oil. This development is HUGE. If we can do this, then we can tell OPEC nations to go eat their oil, as we would have THEM over a barrel - A barrel of food.
    Does a gallon of bug poop produce the same amount of energy as a gallon of gasoline? If not, it's a waste of time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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