Page 166 of 173 FirstFirst ... 66116156164165166167168 ... LastLast
Results 1,651 to 1,660 of 1728

Thread: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

  1. #1651
    Sage
    Lord Tammerlain's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:48 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    10,432

    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What are they not doing? Take your pick....Destroying the dollar, failing to open up exploration, and drilling, while giving money to Brazil and pledging to be their best customer....You tell me.

    j-mac
    They are not giving money to Brazil, they are lending money to Brazil, and like most banks when they lend, they expect to get paid back at a profit
    Happy Hanukkah Cheerfull Kwanzaa
    Happy Christmas Merry New Year Festivus for the rest of us

  2. #1652
    Equal Opportunity Hater
    obvious Child's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    0.0, -2.3 on the Political Compass
    Last Seen
    12-09-14 @ 11:36 PM
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    19,883

    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So you think the same as usual is working. Maybe Obama should actually talk to big oil and work on a solution.
    Do you enjoy debating arguments of your own obvious fabrication? If you want a response to that argument, ask the one who made it: you.
    "If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him." - Sun Tzu

  3. #1653
    Equal Opportunity Hater
    obvious Child's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    0.0, -2.3 on the Political Compass
    Last Seen
    12-09-14 @ 11:36 PM
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    19,883

    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    You mean that's your opinion of what I'm saying, convoluted as it may be.
    Incorrect. My opinion is irrelevant here. The logical end of your argument is a demand for more government dictating to oil companies what they can and cannot do. Don't get all pissy at me for pointing out the logic within your own argument.

    Their oil? If it's in the ground on Government land it's our oil. They either agree to sell it here or they don't get a lease to drill. What's so hard about that? Obama released just 30 million barrels from the strategic reserve and the price of gasoline dropped 20 cents a gallon where I live.
    Be that as it may, you are still explicitly calling for more government intervention in the market.

    I have no clue what point you trying to make.
    You are basically a hypocrite. But most people are. It's okay. As long as you recognize it.

    Why is that? There is enough Natural Gas right here in the United States, we don't need to buy it anywhere else.
    Because CNG is also a major product in Russia, Iran and Venezeula. And any CNG we produce here gets priced with the same mechanism. Sure it wouldn't be as bad considering that we can supply far more of our needs in CNG then oil, but we'd still be putting a very large demand pressure on CNG allowing our enemies to basically free ride off higher prices.

    There are basically two ways to get around this. Nationalize hydrocarbons to screw with the commodity pricing system or get off what our enemies rely on to fuel their regimes. Imagine if we just stopped buying what Russia, Iran and Venezeula rely on. World hydrocarbons see a massive decline to record lows. No money = No Chavez. No Mullahs and no Putin. The faster we can get to wide spread nuclear/renewable, the faster we can knock off our enemies without firing a shot.
    "If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him." - Sun Tzu

  4. #1654
    Professor

    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Last Seen
    03-23-13 @ 02:33 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    1,265

    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    We should be looking for an alternative that is affordable, but my question has always been what do we do in the meantime ?

    Drilling now ...especially considering the shape of our economy puts people to work … nothing bad in that …. putting people to work adds to government revenue … nope don't see anything bad about that …. . once we start extracting said oil, it can only do one of two things .. either lower prices, or cause OPEC to reduce their output …. which in turn reduces their income … can say that is a bad thing … even if our increased production ended up with more exports of our oil .. wouldn't that mean more money “coming into our country” helping to offset what is leaving because of our imports ? If so don't see this as a bad thing either.

    Now when we find and development that alternate affordable fuel, that just means that all the oil we are producing
    becomes and export item, which in turn brings even more money into our country.

    Sorry just sometimes it's hard for me to see much of a downside of us drilling for our own oil … and I'm not even mentioning what the state and federal government gets for selling the right to drill to the oil companies.

  5. #1655
    Disappointed Evolutionist
    Catawba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Seen
    05-28-13 @ 08:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    27,254

    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    We should be looking for an alternative that is affordable,
    We are, this president has provided more funding for alternatives research than any other in history.

    but my question has always been what do we do in the meantime ?
    What the rest of the world is doing, energy conservation.

    "In the post-globalized era, chain stores and fast-food eateries can be found almost everywhere on the planet. But when it comes to the most common car models, some of the biggest names remain unfamiliar to Americans.

    “The rest of the world is really not a lot like us,” says Bill Visnic, a senior analyst for Edmunds.com, which provided this list of globally popular cars. “Small, compact, affordable cars more or less represent what the rest of the world drives.”

    America is big, Americans prefer big, and frankly, Americans are big. As the following slides demonstrate, small cars are popular just about everywhere else, and have been for years, because they’re economical to buy and to run."


    The World's Most Popular Cars - Yahoo! Autos

    Drilling now ...especially considering the shape of our economy puts people to work … nothing bad in that …. putting people to work adds to government revenue … nope don't see anything bad about that …. . once we start extracting said oil, it can only do one of two things .. either lower prices, or cause OPEC to reduce their output …. which in turn reduces their income … can say that is a bad thing … even if our increased production ended up with more exports of our oil .. wouldn't that mean more money “coming into our country” helping to offset what is leaving because of our imports ? If so don't see this as a bad thing either.
    Oil production has increased more in this Administration than in the last decade. Has it helped lower gas prices worldwide? No, because demand from us and the rest of the world has increased more.

    Now when we find and development that alternate affordable fuel, that just means that all the oil we are producing
    becomes and export item, which in turn brings even more money into our country.
    Hate to break it to you but we haven't been able to produce as much oil as we use since 1971, no matter which party was in control of the government.
    Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children. ~ Ancient American Indian Proverb

  6. #1656
    Sage

    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Seen
    05-16-15 @ 02:32 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    12,537

    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    today:

    The Environmental Protection Agency announced Thursday that it finalized rules that compel 28 states and the District to curb air pollution that travels across states by wind and weather, the first in a series of federal restrictions aimed at improving the air Americans breathe.

    The Cross State Air Pollution Rule, which replaces a Bush-era regulation thrown out by federal courts in 2008, targets coal-fired power plants mainly in the eastern United States. The measure, along with a proposal aimed at cutting summertime smog in the Midwest, is projected to cost the utility industry roughly $2.4 billion in pollution control upgrades over several years.
    EPA to impose new power plant rules - The Washington Post

    hey, candidate obama said he'd out and out BANKRUPT em

    party on, progressives, seeya at the polls

  7. #1657
    Disappointed Evolutionist
    Catawba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Seen
    05-28-13 @ 08:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    27,254

    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    today:



    EPA to impose new power plant rules - The Washington Post

    hey, candidate obama said he'd out and out BANKRUPT em

    party on, progressives, seeya at the polls
    "the first in a series of federal restrictions aimed at improving the air Americans breathe." Right, all those that want dirty air to breathe, vote with the Prof's candidate! Once his party as determined for him who that will be. LOL!
    Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children. ~ Ancient American Indian Proverb

  8. #1658
    Sage

    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Seen
    05-16-15 @ 02:32 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    12,537

    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    june 16, obama sends his chief of staff to confab with the fatcats and toobigs---for very special reasons:

    One by one, exasperated executives stood to air their grievances on environmental regulations and stalled free-trade deals. And Daley, the former banker tasked with building ties with industry, found himself looking for the right balance between empathy and defending his boss.

    At one point, the room erupted in applause when Massachusetts manufacturing executive Doug Starrett, his voice shaking with emotion, accused the administration of blocking construction on one of his facilities to protect fish, saying government “throws sand into the gears of progress.”

    Daley said he did not have many good answers, appearing to throw up his hands in frustration at what he called “bureaucratic stuff that’s hard to defend.”

    “Sometimes you can’t defend the indefensible,” he said.

    When a paper company executive said Environmental Protection Agency regulations might cost her $10 million to $15 million to upgrade a mill, Daley said the number of rules and regulations “that come out of agencies is overwhelming.”

    Later, he added: “We’re trying to bring some rationality to it.”
    White House's Daley seeks balance in outreach meeting with manufacturers - The Washington Post

    vote obama, 2012!

    he can't defend the indefensible!

    but he's trying to bring some rationality to it!

    LOL!

  9. #1659
    Disappointed Evolutionist
    Catawba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Seen
    05-28-13 @ 08:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    27,254

    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post

    vote obama, 2012!

    he can't defend the indefensible!

    but he's trying to bring some rationality to it!

    LOL!
    Who is it you want folks to vote for instead of Obama? Let's look at their plan for alternatives to world peak oil and protection of the environment that our economy and people are dependent upon to prosper.

    Or have you still not been told who you think would be the best candidate?
    Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children. ~ Ancient American Indian Proverb

  10. #1660
    Guru
    Councilman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Riverside, County, CA.
    Last Seen
    11-04-11 @ 10:16 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    4,454
    Blog Entries
    10

    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Who is it you want folks to vote for instead of Obama? Let's look at their plan for alternatives to world peak oil and protection of the environment that our economy and people are dependent upon to prosper.

    Or have you still not been told who you think would be the best candidate?
    Funny you should bring up world peak oil and protection of the environment in the same sentences since both are myths.

    Peak oil was invented to affect the price and scare people;

    Global Warming BS grew out of the scare of am Ice age that just didn't scare people enough for the environmentally ill to profit from it.

    There are scientists who say oil has nothing to do with animals of a million of billion years ago and in a naturally occurring substance like rocks and it is being replenished even today.

    I don't buy into this but I hear it, just as I hear scientists who even today say we are headed for a mini Ice Age.

    What is needed is for us not to panic over the hype and act with logic.

    If you know anything you know that Oil prices are as they are because of speculation and artificial outside influences, Obama wants prices high so only a fool would vote for him, knowing high prices at the pump hurts the economy by driving up prices on all consumer goods and services.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •