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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    By what incentive does the market have to find a solution? The world market is making record profits from the fact that demand exeeds supply. The price will continue to go up as we get closer and closer to world peak oil. As long as we are stupid enough to keep paying their prices rather than developing alternatives, they are happy to keep taking our money. Hell, we even fight their wars to keep us dependent on them longer.
    The answer is simple...very simple....economics.

    If the situation was truly as bad as the left prosthelytizes, then companies would be tripping over each other to find the next best thing (fuel source). Whomever created/invented this tech would create a global energy market that would eclipse overall oil revenues in a few years....not 20-30 years as some have suggested. However, since the world reserves are nowhere near depleted such deviation into a source market that has no 'real' value is quite simply a bad investment.

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by amazed View Post
    very pretty dave, what are you going for there...and did you read what you posted?

    waste heat from combustion of petroleum and natural gas can potentially contribute 1.28 degrees to global warming every ten years at present consumption/combustion rates.

    faith....
    Noooo, math

    that leaves 85% as lost heat to the atmosphere. The positive side to this is that 60 times more heat is lost to the atmosphere by natural gas than by oil. Could all this waste heat be symptomatic of something?

    it could be...or it might not be......logical fallacy...
    Not fallacious in any way, what is that heat going to do?

    if i left the heat on in my home it would get too hot. If i leave the heat on in my planet’s atmosphere, will the planet get too hot?

    logical fallacy
    analogy, fits like an old shoe! No fallacy

    would a national energy program that concentrated on end-user efficiency be logical?
    A national program could create energy conservation/efficiency jobs at the local end-user level in all areas of the country (shades of jimmy carter).


    who was worried about "global cooling"....
    Show me the link

    the assumption is made that if a finite amount of energy maintains a status quo temperature, then any additional percentage of energy input would increase the status quo temperature by that same percentage. The waste heat is the additional percentage of energy input. The calculated percentage of waste heat input is .224156%.

    assumptions = faith.....
    You are saying when you turn up the thermostat in your home, it gets colder!

    although the combustion of petroleum may create gases that likely increase the greenhouse effect

    faith...
    Nooo, just an acknowledgement the co2 is a secondary problem

    the melting of polar ice may be producing a non-linearity because of the change of state (solid to liquid) which requires 8 times the energy input to achieve what normally occurs with a one degree change. After all the ice melts, the air temperature will rise more rapidly.


    faith...assumptions....
    Again, math , not faith
    i didn't quote it, i wrote it. Normally it would not require line by line explanation. It isn't that complicated.

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I speak the truth without pulling punches if that is what you mean.
    No, I mean you are intentionally offensive. The man you picture, and laugh at is a working class individual that your lying party says that they support, but only if they vote for demo's eh? Other than that they can go **** themselves right?


    Do you mean he has the freedom to get poorer while those he votes for get richer?
    No, I mean that he lives in the only country in the world that offers the availibility of freedom to excell that this country does. Opprutunity that exists here are what draws peoples from all over the world to come here. Class warfare like what you childishly espouse here is only seen in libs that believe that they are due what someone else earned.

    If he had the opportunity to make more in the free market he wouldn't be a trailer park republican now would he?
    Who knows if he is a republican? Do you personally know the man? I'd be willling to bet that given the liberal propencity to lie, and misrepresent, that they, like the childish, crap think that the smear is somehow funny, in that Allensky sort of way, and made this up to riddicule. libs that are at this level are vapid of intellectual capability, and really don't deserve anything other than my pity.

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    It figures....assumptions are faith dave....plain and simple.

    You assume what you think is correct...it isn't.

    We canplay the dueling source game all day...doesn't change a thing.

    Gore is an idiot....Global Cooling didn't happen....

    Acid Rain didn't end life as we know it...

    ...and the Population Bomb didn't explode.

    Sorry.



    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    i didn't quote it, i wrote it. Normally it would not require line by line explanation. It isn't that complicated.
    Obama is NOT 50 feet tall, he is ONE inch deep.
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Poor Cawtaba.....so much unwarranted condesencion....
    Obama is NOT 50 feet tall, he is ONE inch deep.
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Only for an ever increasing price. All the cheap sources of oil have already been drilled out. Have you not seen the warning from the Military?
    Yes that makes absolute sense, , people will want to pour liquid gold down their gas tanks because there is no other source of energy than oil.

    Someone else will develop it and we'll be all the merrier, sans the fear mongering.


    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It is a fact beyond doubt that we have not produced in this country as much oil as we consume since 1971. If you claim it is speculation, back it up if you can with documentation of any year in the last 4 decades when we have drilled more oil than we consumed.
    So what, we don't need domestic supplies as long as there is oil in the world.
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    Well let's see.....I mowed, used the weed eater and the power blower on my lawn today (allusing fossil fuels).

    Jumped in My Wife's Mustang and took her out for an amazing steak dinner.....drove it home...jumped in my electrically heated Hot Tub and and drank wine with her.

    I don't care about your "Carbon Footprint", or your obsession with fraudulant science...now....as for the judgements of others....not my concern.

    And the high price you pay for your wastefulness is not my concern. Happy motoring!
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Absolutely.....but you see I earn what I spend....I don't think Bammy owes me anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    And the high price you pay for your wastefulness is not my concern. Happy motoring!
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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    And the high price you pay for your wastefulness is not my concern. Happy motoring!
    Ha! you just proved his point.....That's good. Tell me Cat, you are the type of person that gives the harry eyeball to people driving trucks, and SUV's aren't you?

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    Re: Oil rises above $90 amid US crude supply drop

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    If you really have a passive solar house, look up Patent no 4,971,028 It is a passive solar collector panel that goes into sun facing glazing and turns a window into solar collector. It is my patent and if you need any more technical info on it I would be glad to supply it. They are just foam insulation, low tech, easy to build, cheap.
    I'll check it out! Thanks! Right now I have the task ahead of me of mounting the 1.5 kw solar collector system I bought last year. I am very excited to see how much it will reduce my electric bill!
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