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    Re: FCC set to back Internet traffic rules

    Hey Invisible, if you want to reply, then do so out where everyone can join in, and not by filling up my PM box, or if you think it is off topic, then start a new thread in the appropriate forum. But the tactic of death by a thousand PM's is not going to work.


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    Re: FCC set to back Internet traffic rules

    I haven't read all the posts. This topic is very confusing to me, but I trust Marsha Blackburn :-)

    Blackburn Fights Against Net Neutrality - Blog - GOP.gov
    Blackburn also published an op/ed today at Real Clear Politics. Read an excerpt of "FCC Grabs a Christmas Nightmare" here:
    There's no such thing as hospice for federal bureaucracies. No quiet corner where bureaus who have outlived their usefulness can go to bravely face the end. The undead need no such niceties; not when they can leap vampire-like upon the next great sector of American life and proceed to suck it dry in the name of "public interest", "fair play", or any other euphemistic glamour the Executive and Legislative branches can be lulled into.
    This may sound like a Halloween tale, but the FCC's Christmas Week takeover of the Internet is the best example of President Reagan's maxim that the nearest thing to eternal life on Earth is a federal program.
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    Re: FCC set to back Internet traffic rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    How is this the government's role exactly?
    Sorry for delay. It is not, nor did he say it was. he advised people to use multiple sources of information, he did not suggest mandating it.
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    Re: FCC set to back Internet traffic rules

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hey Invisible, if you want to reply, then do so out where everyone can join in, and not by filling up my PM box, or if you think it is off topic, then start a new thread in the appropriate forum. But the tactic of death by a thousand PM's is not going to work.


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    Re: FCC set to back Internet traffic rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Here it is.

    Uh huh.....All you got is gimme proof, gimme proof....Good GAWD man. The rational world sees this woman and her brother for what they are, and you do too otherwise you wouldn't be so defensive of her.....Anyway, read here for the connections.


    Goodman is a hardcore radical who detests both of the established major U.S. political parties. She perceives the politicians of both parties, as well as the dominant liberal media, as corrupted and controlled by a corporate ruling class, and from this perspective attacks them all (albeit from a place on the political spectrum much closer to leftwing Democrats than to Republicans). Because she commonly condemns the allegedly hidden capitalist conspiracies that rule Americans, Goodman is a very attractive figure to the far left.

    After being interviewed for 30 minutes on Election Day 2000 by Goodman and WBAI's Gonzalo Aburto, President Bill Clinton called Goodman "hostile," "combative," and at times "disrespectful." She had, among other things, pressed Mr. Clinton to pardon a jailed radical.

    Key figures around Goodman such as radio producer Mike Burke and television producers Ana Nogueira, Elizabeth Press, and John Hamilton all have backgrounds in Indymedia, an Internet movement steeped in the views of Goodman's close friend and ideological comrade, professor Noam Chomsky. Nogueira has written for the Chomskyite Z Magazine.

    Goodman is also a close friend of Professor Norman Finkelstein, while Professor Cornel West calls himself a great admirer of Goodman.

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    But serious questions have arisen about how Democracy Now! -- which developed with the resources of Pacifica Radio and grants from the Carnegie Corporation, the Ford Foundation, J.M. Kaplan Fund and others -- suddenly in 2002 became independent and the effective property of Amy Goodman without any recompense to Pacifica. This transfer included valuable assets such as trademarks, ownership of years of archived programs and interviews, affiliate station access and more.

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    Goodman commonly speaks at anti-U.S. and anti-Israel rallies.


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    Re: FCC set to back Internet traffic rules

    A couple of things I am annoyed at seeing.

    One is the internet companies comparing bandwidth to water in a pipe, and that they want to charge users who use more water. That's not the way the internet works, and they know that. We could actually be having much FASTER internet than what we have now, but the networks are already deliberately throttled so that the ISPs can offer two-tier service to "premium" customers. This has nothing to do with conserving network bandwidth, but greed.

    User applications and data require MORE bandwidth and hard drive space as time goes on. Instead of acknowledging a simple reality and keeping the internet neutral, the FCC and the ISPs are co-conspiring to hold back the entire process, and for no good reason. Data transfer doesn't work like a water pipe, never has.

    The second thing is, the public paid for the very lines that the telecom companies are using to make money off of. This should be struck down by the Supreme Court.

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    Re: FCC set to back Internet traffic rules

    The real target, or at least one of them speaks out over this horrible display of unAmerican government from within.





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    Re: FCC set to back Internet traffic rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    A couple of things I am annoyed at seeing.

    One is the internet companies comparing bandwidth to water in a pipe, and that they want to charge users who use more water. That's not the way the internet works, and they know that.
    It's how it works from their end. Even if you imagined the internet as a limitless ocean, people need pipes to get the water to their homes. As people use more water, companies need to provide additional pipes.

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    Re: FCC set to back Internet traffic rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Sorry for delay. It is not, nor did he say it was. he advised people to use multiple sources of information, he did not suggest mandating it.
    People in his administration have though. That should bother everyone.
    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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