Page 3 of 25 FirstFirst 1234513 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 244

Thread: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

  1. #21
    Enemy Combatant
    Kandahar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Washington, DC
    Last Seen
    10-15-13 @ 08:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    20,688

    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I actually find this disgusting. All of you are supporting this book being sold due to free speech and yet you get highly offended (enough to say that he should be shot) when someone tries to force transparency upon our government through leaks...what they hell is wrong with you people?
    Exposing state secrets = a crime that is illegal for good reason
    Writing about objectionable topics and informing people of their own rights = freedom of speech
    Are you coming to bed?
    I can't. This is important.
    What?
    Someone is WRONG on the internet! -XKCD

  2. #22
    Enemy Combatant
    Kandahar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Washington, DC
    Last Seen
    10-15-13 @ 08:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    20,688

    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Emotionally charged... maybe you'd feel differently if you were molested or raped as a child, or one of your kids were
    I rest my case. You don't even make an ATTEMPT at a rational argument, you just go straight for the emotion.
    Are you coming to bed?
    I can't. This is important.
    What?
    Someone is WRONG on the internet! -XKCD

  3. #23
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 01:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    54,124

    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    And I hope that bastard never gets out of prison. The how-to book on molesting children sparked a firestorm that got the book pulled from Amazon.com, and now he is in jail. There is no telling how much damage his publishing that book caused, or how many child molesters may have used it as a guide to fulfilling their own sick, perverted fantasies.

    May this punk never get out of prison, and may an inmate named "Bubba the Booty Bandit" have his way with him each and every day the punk is still alive.

    Article is here.
    I don't know. We have things like the Anarchists Cookbook and the Poor Man's James Bond which have all sorts of illegal thing in them. Yet are they not still legal to make and distribute? How is this any different? Other than having attached an emotional outlet to this particular information? I think it's crap to have him arrested because I can't imagine it having been done for anything other than emotional argument. And those with nothing more than emotional argument should not be listened to.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

  4. #24
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 01:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    54,124

    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Kev316 View Post
    My God; People defending a pig under first amendment rights, yet want Muslims Americans - who have done nothing - removed from the country for their beliefs, in violation of the first amendment. WTF?

    As a sexually abused male child at the ripe old age of 11, I can honestly tell you I have no sympathy for anyone defending this. You're doing what the Vatican did, destroying countless lives in the process. You're doing what is now being done in countless Christian churches across this nation: exploiting the weak for you own perverse sexual pleasures because "you're the man!" And yes, for all you fundies who know it but refuse to see it, you're the biggest perverts of the bunch, demanding submission from your women and children.

    What is wrong with people?
    freedom sucks man, what else is there to say?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

  5. #25
    Sage
    SheWolf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:01 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    24,446

    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Is he actually telling people HOW to molest children? I mean, I would think that anyone so inclined could probably figure that out for themselves. Or is he telling them how to react if they are caught? If that is the case, then your analogy is flawed.
    (CNN) — The man behind a controversial book considered a “how-to” guide for pedophiles was arrested in Colorado, officials in Florida said Monday.

    You cannot engage or depict children in a harmful relationship,” said Polk County, Florida, Sheriff Grady Judd as he described the Florida obscenity statute that officials used to charge Phillip Greaves with distribution of obscene material depicting minors engaged in harmful conduct.
    The full title of the book is “The Pedophile’s Guide to Love and Pleasure: A Child-Lover’s Code of Conduct."

    “He actually provided a how-to guide to commit sexual battery against children,” according to Judd, who said he was shocked and mortified by specific examples and illustrations using 9- and 13-year-old boys.

    Judd said he was frustrated that Greaves’ book was protected under freedom of speech laws, even though it was created “specifically to teach people how to sexually molest and rape children.”

    “There may be nothing that the other 49 states can do, but there is something that the state of Florida can do … to make sure we prosecute Philip Greaves for his manifesto,” Judd said.

    Officials said the book talked about safe sex and avoiding injury to children, grooming and preparing children for sex, and teaching children how to lie to their parents.

    Judd said Greaves’ book outlined a “code of ethics” that showed pedophiles how to look for the most vulnerable children.
    Man who wrote 'how-to' for pedophiles arrested - CNN

    The man is sick... Usually childhood survivors of rape and molestation have a difficult time coping with not telling sooner or not telling at all, they tend to believe that their lack of telling gives their abuser the chance to abuse more. No victims want their abuser to abuse more or hurt other kids..

    The fact that people are defending this book is disgusting. He is clearly telling pedos how to abuse and how to manipulate the children and make them compliant... If this man has abused and conditioned his victims and is writing a how-to-guide on it, further exploiting his victims and abuse, and making money on it... then he is just further damaging those children. It's f**king sick and indefensible..
    Last edited by SheWolf; 12-24-10 at 02:15 AM.

  6. #26
    Sage
    SheWolf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:01 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    24,446

    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't know. We have things like the Anarchists Cookbook and the Poor Man's James Bond which have all sorts of illegal thing in them. Yet are they not still legal to make and distribute? How is this any different? Other than having attached an emotional outlet to this particular information? I think it's crap to have him arrested because I can't imagine it having been done for anything other than emotional argument. And those with nothing more than emotional argument should not be listened to.
    He was arrested in the state of Florida, because they have a law strictly stating that it is illegal to depict children in the manner his book did.. But they said he might not be able to be arrested in the other 49 states, depending on their laws.

  7. #27
    Shankmasta Killa
    TacticalEvilDan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Western NY and Geneva, CH
    Last Seen
    08-30-15 @ 04:51 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    10,444

    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    I haven't read the book, so I'll assume for the sake of argument it actually seeks to teach people how to target and sexually abuse children.

    You know what I find interesting?

    How many people are dead-set on being disgusted by this book -- rather than viewing it as an opportunity to learn lessons on how to better protect vulnerable children from the very type of person who seeks to abuse them. Any electronic intrusion, criminal justice or terrorism expert can learn volumes from the maintenance manuals and technical documentation published by his targets. Why is this any different?

    Why is it that we can't be adult enough to look past the shock and see the strategic value of a document like this?
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

  8. #28
    Shankmasta Killa
    TacticalEvilDan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Western NY and Geneva, CH
    Last Seen
    08-30-15 @ 04:51 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    10,444

    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    He was arrested in the state of Florida, because they have a law strictly stating that it is illegal to depict children in the manner his book did.. But they said he might not be able to be arrested in the other 49 states, depending on their laws.
    That's my favorite part. They wanted jurisdiction, so they sent away for a signed copy. They wanted to nail him, so they asked him to break the law, and the best part would be that if he didn't think he was breaking the law to begin with.

    The crazy thing is, I bet you dollars to donuts that that violates one of a variety of vaguely-worded Federal statutes regulating interstate commerce, the difference here is that the government did it, so it's okay.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

  9. #29
    Sage
    SheWolf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:01 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    24,446

    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I rest my case. You don't even make an ATTEMPT at a rational argument, you just go straight for the emotion.
    That is all you have to say? Pathetic..

    I don't think my statement was emotional and void of a rational argument. I will still argue that if you were hurt by somebody like that man, or one of your children were.. you'd probably feel different and think differently. I am rationally arguing that your initial instinct would be different. That is not void of rational.. your response is utter BS.

  10. #30
    Shankmasta Killa
    TacticalEvilDan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Western NY and Geneva, CH
    Last Seen
    08-30-15 @ 04:51 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    10,444

    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I will still argue that if you were hurt by somebody like that man, or one of your children were.. you'd probably feel different and think differently. I am rationally arguing that your initial instinct would be different.
    The law should not be about instincts or feelings.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

Page 3 of 25 FirstFirst 1234513 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •