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    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    The problem with obscenity laws is that they are, by their nature, vague and open to interpretation.

    The law should not be vague and open to interpretation.

    Laws which are vague and open to interpretation put defendants at the mercy of a prosecutor's discretion and the moral outrage of 12 random strangers.
    Apparently Florida's obscenity laws are not that vague.

    "I thought the book was outrageous," Judd said. "That someone would pen a how-to manifesto to sexually batter very young children." He said Florida has a very clear obscenity statute prohibiting the depiction of children engaged in sexual conduct and two real-life stories in Greaves' book violated that statute.
    Now to everyone else:

    I actually find this disgusting. All of you are supporting this book being sold due to free speech and yet you get highly offended (enough to say that he should be shot) when someone tries to force transparency upon our government through leaks...what they hell is wrong with you people?
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    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    My God; People defending a pig under first amendment rights, yet want Muslims Americans - who have done nothing - removed from the country for their beliefs, in violation of the first amendment. WTF?

    As a sexually abused male child at the ripe old age of 11, I can honestly tell you I have no sympathy for anyone defending this. You're doing what the Vatican did, destroying countless lives in the process. You're doing what is now being done in countless Christian churches across this nation: exploiting the weak for you own perverse sexual pleasures because "you're the man!" And yes, for all you fundies who know it but refuse to see it, you're the biggest perverts of the bunch, demanding submission from your women and children.

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    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    OK, suppose that the guy had wrote a book telling people what areas of a city they could visit if they wanted to find a prostitute...or how to behave if the police find your stash of pot. Off with his head?

    I'm curious as to what you mean by "teaching others how to molest children." That's rather vague. What exactly did he write about that you think warrants a prison sentence?
    Suppose he did? But he didn't, did he? He wrote about destroying a child's life for the rest of that child's life.
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    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    OK, suppose that the guy had wrote a book telling people what areas of a city they could visit if they wanted to find a prostitute...or how to behave if the police find your stash of pot. Off with his head?

    I'm curious as to what you mean by "teaching others how to molest children." That's rather vague. What exactly did he write about that you think warrants a prison sentence?
    What if it were the Taliban telling people how to successfully commit terrorist acts and build bombs?

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    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Apparently freedom of speech goes right out the window when it comes to being on the wrong side of public opinion on emotionally-charged issues.
    Emotionally charged... maybe you'd feel differently if you were molested or raped as a child, or one of your kids were

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    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Apparently Florida's obscenity laws are not that vague.
    The problem I've been having is locating the particular statute being referenced. Florida has an array of them, more than one of which could theoretically applied, and all of which are vague.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I actually find this disgusting. All of you are supporting this book being sold due to free speech and yet you get highly offended (enough to say that he should be shot) when someone tries to force transparency upon our government through leaks...
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    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    What if it were the Taliban telling people how to successfully commit terrorist acts and build bombs?
    If memory serves, I'm there are plenty of publicly available works out there that do just that, they just aren't phrased that directly.
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    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Emotionally charged... maybe you'd feel differently if you were molested or raped as a child, or one of your kids were
    Hmm...

    Nope, doesn't make a difference. I still hate vaguely-worded laws used as moral claw-hammers.
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    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Now to everyone else:

    I actually find this disgusting. All of you are supporting this book being sold due to free speech and yet you get highly offended (enough to say that he should be shot) when someone tries to force transparency upon our government through leaks...what they hell is wrong with you people?
    I am not one of those people as I have defended Assange.

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Emotionally charged... maybe you'd feel differently if you were molested or raped as a child, or one of your kids were
    This book is reportedly, again have not read it so I cannot say for certain, explaining how pedophiles can satisfy their desires without engaging in sex. Interestingly the author has stated himself that he had sex at a very early age, in one instance it was mentioned that he had oral sex at seven with an older woman.
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    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    What if it were the Taliban telling people how to successfully commit terrorist acts and build bombs?
    Is he actually telling people HOW to molest children? I mean, I would think that anyone so inclined could probably figure that out for themselves. Or is he telling them how to react if they are caught? If that is the case, then your analogy is flawed.
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