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    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Do you think any type of child porn should be legal? As long as the pedophiles are getting some visual pleasure and not hurting anybody.. that is ok..
    No. Pictures which have actual, factual child porn (i.e. sexual intercourse or other pornographic images of real minors) should be illegal. Things such as drawings, lolicon, etc. where there is no real child should not be illegal.
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    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    People are saying that because a prosecutor brought charges, it must mean he did something wrong. What was that guys name who brought charges against all those rugby or something players and it was later all dropped, found to be lies, and the prosecutor lost his job and was sued?

    A prosecutor pressing charges means nothing.

    Of course child porn should be illegal, but unless that guy had child porn in his book, this thread isn't about child porn.
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    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    No one is trying to make pedophilia mainstream or more acceptable?

    Excuse me, but that is AUTHOR'S GOAL. He is trying to do that, and I cannot respect that. I cannot easily accept his ****ing book... I have a freedom of speech to express that... You think my opinion is just pure emotion and just stupid, but his is protected speech and you're willing to lecture me on that for pages and pages, whilst insulting me..
    Sorry, I meant no one on these boards are trying to do so. Your comment seemed more generally aimed, not specifically aimed only at the author. Of who's intent I have no clue.
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    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Kev316 View Post
    Somebody is, and it's not the good, moral cons and faux libertarians. Jesus...
    What is the point of this horribly stupid comment? Faux libertarian? Please, don't be an idiot. There's no faux with me. I stand by the rights and liberties of the individual and nothing more. I will defend those to the end, I will take every consequence, all dangers, every last duty required in order to preserve freedom to the maximum. So take your failed smarmy comments and assumptions that have no backing and come back when you have something of intellectual honesty and integrity to say. Until then, the ravings of emotional fools has no bearing on me. Good day.
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    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    No, the proper thing to do is for the judge to summarily dismiss the case and reprimand the prosecutor.

    I'm not. I'm saying it should be dismissed.

    This is a circular argument if I've ever heard one: "There must be some legitimate dispute over the law, because the prosecutor filed charges. And the prosecutor must have filed charges because there is some legitimate dispute over the law."

    The law is quite clear that inflammatory speech (including speech advocating breaking the law) is constitutionally protected unless it incites imminent lawless action, as established in Brandenburg v. Ohio.

    It's not a matter of being "falsely accused," as that implies that the facts of the case are under dispute. Everyone agrees on the facts, and the prosecutor is simply wrong that those facts add up to a violation of the law.

    Why would it quell confusion on the issue in the future? The law is already quite clear, yet you're saying it isn't. Why would a clear ruling here prevent you from doing exactly the same thing next time someone exercises their freedom of speech to voice an opinion you dislike?
    It could possibly be dismissed - sure. They haven't gone past that point, yet. But the argument for the case must still be made - first - dismissal comes based on a review of the pleadings.

    But that would merely postpone the issue of 'pedophilia-obscenity' for the future - we'll be revisiting this issue again and again.

    The core problem is that there is no case precedent - there are 'sort of' and 'similar' - but nothing exactly *like this one* - leaving everyone drawing a blank.

    This subject must be addressed in the legal system - the definition of 'obscenity' is too vague and needs a heavy case to propel the entire subject back to the Supreme Court Justices so they can define "obscene" - pelting out "I'll know obscenity when I see it" as they've done in the past is not a decision and not a judgment and has left so many loopholes in this entire subject that obscenity is either tossed too heavily - or too lightly.

    Why you don't want this to culminate into more detailed agreement and definition on "what is obscene" is beyond me - you want this to merely be dismissed based on how you feel about it.

    Once they further define obscenity then there will be more solid ground to stand on when filing said charges against someone.

    If there were currently a more precise definition of what obscenity was then charges might not have been filed at all.
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    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Pssst....those votes did not belong to the Republicans alone. The Deomcrats did not oppose it, particularly things like the Patriot Act and such. They're all a bunch of cowards willing to sacrafice our lives and money for their political gains.
    I know that, but the republicans supported it too.. and it was Bush's administration.. both parties make mostly bad decisions

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    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I know that, but the republicans supported it too.. and it was Bush's administration.. both parties make mostly bad decisions
    If the Liberals are so concerned with it then they should have taken the time to reverse and nullify it's measures.
    By choosing not to do anything - they decided that it's legitimate, acceptable and perfectly fine as is.

    They disapproved of DADT - and repealed it They disapproved of our healthcare-system and changed it . . . what stopped them from tackling the Patriot Act was the fact that they still supported it - if not in whole then in part - and considered it legitimate.

    *so - flush goes that argument*
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    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What is the point of this horribly stupid comment? Faux libertarian? Please, don't be an idiot. There's no faux with me. I stand by the rights and liberties of the individual and nothing more. I will defend those to the end, I will take every consequence, all dangers, every last duty required in order to preserve freedom to the maximum. So take your failed smarmy comments and assumptions that have no backing and come back when you have something of intellectual honesty and integrity to say. Until then, the ravings of emotional fools has no bearing on me. Good day.
    Ikari, namecalling is another indication of a loss. When your opponent has to stoop to that level you may hold your head up high in victory.

    Notice I haven't attacked any particular political party other than one time saying that conservatives love to chant about the constitution and are the first to break it, but that wasn't directed at anyone here because nobody here that I know of in this thread even has their political lean as conservative.
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    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I know that, but the republicans supported it too.. and it was Bush's administration.. both parties make mostly bad decisions
    Correction, both parties make bad decisions for the People at large. But they make very good decisions for the aristocracy they protect.
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    Re: Author of 'Pedophile's Guide' Arrested on Obscenity Charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Kev316 View Post
    Okay, maybe it was a dumb rhetorical question. But you take my meaning, right? In this country, somewhere around a third of our daughters are molested every day. We are finding out our sons had it no better. I know these former kids, and it destroys them inside and out, slowly, over time. Recovery takes a lifetime. Every day you have to keep your head in recovery, and it gets really really old.

    The prayer room is what Fox News liked to call the Mosque at Ground Zero. It was never a mosque or at ground zero, but this is what they called it. Now, many conservatives feel that the first amendment rights of Muslims should not apply because they are all terrorists, or so they say. I just find it ironic that so much debate over the rights of a pedophile, while pining for first amendment rights be taken from folks that have done nothing. Muslims died in the towers that day, too.
    Oh, I would have had no problem even if it had been a mosque, as opposed to an Islamic community center.

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Ok, so you'd rather be killed than raped? Do you even realize what you're saying? Something that ends a life isn't as bad as something that doesn't. It's that exact mindset that sets a precedent for stupid laws to be passed.
    What do you expect? Our society is overly sensitive to matters of sex, even more so than violence.
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