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    AP: New population count may complicate Obama 2012 bid

    It seems that many people are leaving blue states and relocating to red ones, which doesn't look good for the democrats... Gee, I wonder why this is happening? You think it has anything to do with the effects that democratic policies have on an economy, versus the effects that republican policies have?

    Naaaaaa... That couldn't be it.

    New population count may complicate Obama 2012 bid
    By CHARLES BABINGTON, Associated Press
    Sun Dec 19, 11:21 am ET

    WASHINGTON – The 2010 census report coming out Tuesday will include a boatload of good political news for Republicans and grim data for Democrats hoping to re-elect President Barack Obama and rebound from last month's devastating elections.

    The population continues to shift from Democratic-leaning Rust Belt states to Republican-leaning Sun Belt states, a trend the Census Bureau will detail in its once-a-decade report to the president. Political clout shifts, too, because the nation must reapportion the 435 House districts to make them roughly equal in population, based on the latest census figures.

    The biggest gainer will be Texas, a GOP-dominated state expected to gain up to four new House seats, for a total of 36. The chief losers — New York and Ohio, each projected by nongovernment analysts to lose two seats — were carried by Obama in 2008 and are typical of states in the Northeast and Midwest that are declining in political influence.

    Democrats' problems don't end there.

    November's elections put Republicans in control of dozens of state legislatures and governorships, just as states prepare to redraw their congressional and legislative district maps. It's often a brutally partisan process, and Republicans' control in those states will enable them to create new districts to their liking.
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    Re: AP: New population count may complicate Obama 2012 bid

    For me it was the weather, many red states do tend to be warmer (Florida is purplish though)
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    Re: AP: New population count may complicate Obama 2012 bid

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    It seems that many people are leaving blue states and relocating to red ones, which doesn't look good for the democrats... Gee, I wonder why this is happening? You think it has anything to do with the effects that democratic policies have on an economy, versus the effects that republican policies have?

    Naaaaaa... That couldn't be it.



    New population count may complicate Obama 2012 bid - Yahoo! News
    Do you have any data at all to support that wild claim?
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    Re: AP: New population count may complicate Obama 2012 bid

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Do you have any data at all to support that wild claim?
    I believe the upcoming census will serve well in that capasity... Then of course there's the statistic of which states are in the most financial trouble in America... But other than the actual economic numbers, and the fact that people are leaving blue states and relocating to red ones, I got nothing... lol

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    Re: AP: New population count may complicate Obama 2012 bid

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I believe the upcoming census will serve well in that capasity... Then of course there's the statistic of which states are in the most financial trouble in America... But other than the actual economic numbers, and the fact that people are leaving blue states and relocating to red ones, I got nothing... lol
    So you have actually nothing that it is democratic policy. It couldn't have something to manufacturing states tend to be blue states, and those states are hit hardest by bad economic times?

    This is a classic case of believing something and then assuming some cause and effect relationship outside of any evidence.
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    Re: AP: New population count may complicate Obama 2012 bid

    Another thing is the GOP won the majority in many state congress which means they draw new district lines.

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    Re: AP: New population count may complicate Obama 2012 bid

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    It seems that many people are leaving blue states and relocating to red ones, which doesn't look good for the democrats... Gee, I wonder why this is happening? You think it has anything to do with the effects that democratic policies have on an economy, versus the effects that republican policies have?

    Naaaaaa... That couldn't be it.
    They will just move into republican controlled states and vote for democrats, forcing the same destructive policies on their new states. Then they'll wonder what happened and how the previously republican controlled states (now democrat controlled) got into such bad economic positions. Which will, of course, force them to move again and start the cycle all over again. They're kind of like a plague that way.

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    Re: AP: New population count may complicate Obama 2012 bid

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    It doesn't look good for the democrats...
    No big deal.. It happens every mid term election, because the have-nots are much more focused than the complacent already-have.

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    Re: AP: New population count may complicate Obama 2012 bid

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So you have actually nothing that it is democratic policy. It couldn't have something to manufacturing states tend to be blue states, and those states are hit hardest by bad economic times?

    This is a classic case of believing something and then assuming some cause and effect relationship outside of any evidence.
    And I suppose that the plight of inner cities and the fact they have not progressed for the poor and minorities, has nothing to do with the fact that nearly all of them have been controlled by democrats and their policies over the last 50 years... Right?

    How about you take a look at the most business friendly states (you know, the job providing ones) and see how many are red, and how many are blue.

    Then of course there's the tax burden. You know, which states people pay less taxes in, and which pay more. Here, I dug this up for you because I read it recently.

    It is estimated by the Tax Foundation that the nation as a whole will pay on average 9.7% of its income in state and local taxes in 2008, down from 9.9% in 2007 primarily because income grew faster than tax collections between 2007 and 2008. This is the latest report the Tax Foundation has issued.

    New Jersey residents paid 11.8%, topping the charts. New Yorkers were close behind, paying 11.7%, and Connecticut was third at 11.1%. The top 10 were rounded out by Maryland (10.8%), Hawaii (10.6%), California (10.5%), Ohio (10.4%). Vermont (10.3%), Wisconsin (10.2%) and Rhode Island (10.2%).

    Alaskans pay the least, 6.4 percent in 2008, but Nevada is close at 6.6 percent. In four states the residents pay between 7 and 8 percent of their income in state and local taxes: Wyoming (7.0%), Florida (7.4%), New Hampshire (7.6%) and South Dakota (7.9%). Four other states round out the bottom 10: Tennessee (8.3%), Texas (8.4%), Louisiana (8.4%) and Arizona (8.5%).

    Taxes by State

    You can believe what you want... I choose to use the facts to base my beliefs on.

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    Re: AP: New population count may complicate Obama 2012 bid

    I think he'll be fine, demographic-wise. The far larger issues will be how well the economy is doing at the time and who he's running against.
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