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    Swedish Police Report Details Case Against Assange

    Swedish Police Report Details Case Against Assange
    By John F. Burns and Ravi Somalya
    Published: December 18, 2010

    LONDON — Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks who was released from a British jail late last week, is facing a new challenge: the leak of a 68-page confidential Swedish police report that sheds new light on the allegations of sexual misconduct that led to Mr. Assange’s legal troubles. The Swedish report traces events over a four-day period in August when Mr. Assange had what he has described as consensual sexual relationships with two Swedish women. Their accounts, which form the basis of an extradition case against Mr. Assange, state that their encounters with him began consensually, but became nonconsensual when he persisted in having unprotected sex with them in defiance of their insistence that he use a condom.

    The Swedish document traces the accounts given by the two women of their intimate encounters with Mr. Assange. As previously reported, both women say that Mr. Assange first agreed to use a condom and then refused, in the first instance by continuing with sex after the condom broke, and in the second by having sex without using a condom with a woman who was asleep. Mr. Assange’s suspicions of political interference in the case were confirmed, he has said in recent days, by the decision of the Swedish prosecutors to drop the initial arrest warrant, and to downgrade the investigation to one of “molestation,” a minor offense. Those decisions were reversed in late August when the chief state prosecutor, Marianne Ny, overruling a subordinate prosecutor in Stockholm, Eva Finne, restored the original allegations, saying that rape was the appropriate charge for the evidence on file with the prosecutors.

    Legal experts in Sweden have said that the decision was not unusual given the success that the women’s movement in Sweden has had over the last 30 years in recasting Sweden’s criminal laws on sexual issues, making them extremely protective of women’s rights. In an interview in Stockholm, plaintif's lawyer Claes Borgstrom said it was common under Sweden’s rape laws for men who force sex on women without a condom to face prosecution. “It’s a violation of sexual integrity, and it can be seen as rape,” he said.
    Source: New York Times

    If the allegations of forced unprotected sex are true, I would also consider this to constitute non-consensual sex and forced violation (rape).

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    Re: Swedish Police Report Details Case Against Assange

    Well let's see what happens at trial
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    Re: Swedish Police Report Details Case Against Assange

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Well let's see what happens at trial
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    Re: Swedish Police Report Details Case Against Assange

    the first woman felt so threatened and distressed with the 'incident' that she continued living with Assange and having sex with him for another week. the second woman felt so threatened and distressed with the 'incident' that she threw a party for Assagne that same night and then had sex with him again a couple of days later.

    10 days in Sweden: the full allegations against Julian Assange | Media | The Guardian

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    Re: Swedish Police Report Details Case Against Assange

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    the first woman felt so threatened and distressed with the 'incident' that she continued living with Assange and having sex with him for another week. the second woman felt so threatened and distressed with the 'incident' that she threw a party for Assagne that same night and then had sex with him again a couple of days later.

    10 days in Sweden: the full allegations against Julian Assange | Media | The Guardian
    Happy campers wouldn't have demanded that Mr. Assange be tested for sexually transmitted diseases. Both women here did so. He refused. Thus, the two women went to Stockholm’s Klara police station to seek advice on how to proceed.

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    Re: Swedish Police Report Details Case Against Assange

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Happy campers wouldn't have demanded that Mr. Assange be tested for sexually transmitted diseases. Both women here did so. He refused. Thus, the two women went to Stockholm’s Klara police station to seek advice on how to proceed.
    So his wiki may not be the only thing that is leaking?

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    Re: Swedish Police Report Details Case Against Assange

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Source: New York Times

    If the allegations of forced unprotected sex are true, I would also consider this to constitute non-consensual sex and forced violation (rape).
    I'm an 18-year-old boy having sex with an 18-year-old girl. The condom breaks and I continue on despite her protests. Rape? I can't buy it. And besides that, prove it.

    Same boy rolls over in bed and has sex with the girl lying next to him. She says, "Not if you're not going to use a condom." Again, I say, "prove it."

    She said/he said simply cannot result in a guilty verdict. There'd better be bruises. There'd better be a rape kit. There'd better be a witness to yelling in the next room. On the basis of what I'm reading here, I don't believe those charges would have been filed in the U.S. I see these charges as much ado about nothing.
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    Re: Swedish Police Report Details Case Against Assange

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Source: New York Times

    If the allegations of forced unprotected sex are true, I would also consider this to constitute non-consensual sex and forced violation (rape).
    The forced part is what I would say is the issue. (also the lack of consent part when the women was sleeping would be considered rape)

    If it was forced then it is rape, protected or unprotected.

    But given the behaviour of the two women after the incidents took place I have doubts about thier claims
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    Re: Swedish Police Report Details Case Against Assange

    If they didn't go to forensics right away, it'll be hard to overcome reasonable doubt. Does Sweden have reasonable doubt thingy?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Swedish Police Report Details Case Against Assange

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't believe those charges would have been filed in the U.S.
    Perhaps. Perhaps not. The fact remains that they were filed in Sweden. The chief prosecutor there obviously believes sexual crimes were committed. I have no idea what the legal code in Sweden regarding a rape conviction entails. However, the article did produce this interesting excerpt...

    Legal experts in Sweden have said that the decision was not unusual given the success that the women’s movement in Sweden has had over the last 30 years in recasting Sweden’s criminal laws on sexual issues, making them extremely protective of women’s rights.
    The words "extremely protective" implies a definitive above the norm.

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