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    Re: Swedish Police Report Details Case Against Assange

    Those seem like pretty circumstantial allegations to me, but we'll have to see what the courts say. It's basically their word against his.

    If a man is not using a condom it's your responsibility to know that before he is penetrating you, just as much as it's his responsibility to be wearing one. The allegation that he had sex with one of them while she was asleep and didn't use a condom seems highly unlikely to me. Like she wouldn't wake up? If she did and let him keep going, again it's her own fault for not turning around and asking the simple condom question.

    I'm not the kind of person who blames rape victims but calling this rape is a stretch, and you can tell that Sweden is really trying to milk this obscure law in order to get Assange into custody.

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    Re: Swedish Police Report Details Case Against Assange

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I'm an 18-year-old boy having sex with an 18-year-old girl. The condom breaks and I continue on despite her protests. Rape? I can't buy it. And besides that, prove it.

    Same boy rolls over in bed and has sex with the girl lying next to him. She says, "Not if you're not going to use a condom." Again, I say, "prove it."

    She said/he said simply cannot result in a guilty verdict. There'd better be bruises. There'd better be a rape kit. There'd better be a witness to yelling in the next room. On the basis of what I'm reading here, I don't believe those charges would have been filed in the U.S. I see these charges as much ado about nothing.
    I don't know about Sweedish law, but in the US, you don't need any physical violence to prove rape. Threat, incapacitation (victim being roofied, drunk beyond the ability to consent, or asleep) or coercion work just as well.
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    Re: Swedish Police Report Details Case Against Assange

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I don't know about Sweedish law, but in the US, you don't need any physical violence to prove rape. Threat, incapacitation (victim being roofied, drunk beyond the ability to consent, or asleep) or coercion work just as well.
    I didn't mean to imply that one needed to show signs of physical violence. I was insisting that there would have to be proof beyond "He-Said She-Said" -- signs of violence being one way to do that. I probably wasn't too clear.
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    Re: Swedish Police Report Details Case Against Assange

    Bush & Congress mislead the entire country into war and nothing happens to any of them. Assange reveals information about the lies pushed through by our politicians and he goes to jail. The world is now officially run by pussies.
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