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DADT cloture passes

We shall see what happens to our military now...I sadly predict it won't be a pretty picture if gays flaunt their sexuality like I expect and like they do in the so called gay pride parades.......A lot of gays will get beat up for checking out straights innocent or not.........On the beach gays that sit together, hold hands and kiss are very much endangered...........I am just glad to see I am not on active duty any more to see this...........Our military can never be defeated on the battlefield but they can from within...........I hope I am wrong but sadly I know Iam right.........As soon as the flaunting starts the incidents will start destrying morale and unit cohesion.........Stay tuned.........

Observing how they do that now outside the military, one can reasonably suspect it will happen in the military as well.
 
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Hi shipmate. Good to see you and your ellipses. Also good to see you prognosticating skills remain as always. Your overblown rhetoric is in top form today.

On the plus side, when you visit a ship next time, you could end up with a date!
 
We shall see what happens to our military now...I sadly predict it won't be a pretty picture if gays flaunt their sexuality like I expect and like they do in the so called gay pride parades.......A lot of gays will get beat up for checking out straights innocent or not.........On the beach gays that sit together, hold hands and kiss are very much endangered...........I am just glad to see I am not on active duty any more to see this...........Our military can never be defeated on the battlefield but they can from within...........I hope I am wrong but sadly I know Iam right.........As soon as the flaunting starts the incidents will start destrying morale and unit cohesion.........Stay tuned.........

Better get started filling up your bathtub.
 
What will be even more interesting is to see how the troops react. I was at a political meeting where we were discussing this, and a libertarian soldier commented that DADT was also wanted by gay rights groups. To quote him, "If DADT gets repealed, and we have, like, flamboyant gays and transvestites and stuff, people will be getting beat to death. That's just how it is." Military people aren't the sort to protest, after all. They don't talk, they do.
 
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Then I thank you for your honesty.

Just to clear things up more... everybody has their own definition of tolerance or perfect tolerance.. I don't think you'll find many people respecting what the Westboro Baptist Church says and does, but I tolerate their freedom of speech and their right to say what they say.

I don't tolerate their message.. just their right to say it..

I don't tolerate racism.. I just don't believe people should be tossed in jail for saying something racist

People tolerating certain things like Holocaust denial or pedophilia just isn't popular or easily accepted by most of the general populace... Those are the facts
 
What will be even more interesting is to see how the troops react. I was at a political meeting where we were discussing this, and a libertarian soldier commented that DADT was also wanted by gay rights groups. To quote him, "If DADT gets repealed, and we have, like, flamboyant gays and transvestites and stuff, people will be getting beat to death. That's just how it is."

Well apparently 2/3 of the military disagrees with your one guy.
 
What is interesting is that the military, being primarily involved, was not allowed to vote on this issue.

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A pony and a new car would be swell, but I'll settle for an explanation of what you mean by the UK forcing its soldiers to "play homosexuals."

Oh. You again.

As one example of Britain's internal workings:

Britain's War on Christianity: America's Future Fight? - World - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com

Gay Rights Agenda

Christian Kwabena Peat was forced to attend homosexual sensitivity training at work, administered by a lesbian.

"One of things that she said was, she asked the question, 'What makes you think that to be heterosexual is natural?' At which point, I walked out," Peat said.

Then Peat wrote a letter to the sensitivity trainer, explaining the Bible's position on homosexuality, and that God loved her and Peat loved her. He was suspended.

"They said that by me telling them about the Word of God, it constituted harassment and intimidation," Peat said.

Peat was just recently reinstated. But cases like his have been repeated over and over with doctors, nurses and adoptive parents being deemed unfit because of their Christian beliefs. Christians have been told not to speak about God in the workplace or they could be punished for offending homosexuals or Muslims.

And the British government recently tried to pass an equality bill that would have forced churches to hire practicing homosexuals or transsexuals.

Combine that with Britain's military Gay Parade and sensitivty training.
 
Well apparently 2/3 of the military disagrees with your one guy.

He specifically said "the guys in combat arms," not the entire military. He also said that personally he doesn't care either way, and that he's served alongside gay soldiers who did their jobs fine.
 
What will be even more interesting is to see how the troops react. I was at a political meeting where we were discussing this, and a libertarian soldier commented that DADT was also wanted by gay rights groups. To quote him, "If DADT gets repealed, and we have, like, flamboyant gays and transvestites and stuff, people will be getting beat to death. That's just how it is." Military people aren't the sort to protest, after all. They don't talk, they do.

These are good points. American soldiers weren't allowed to vote. If people expect those soldiers to "deal" with the obvious flamboyancy that is related to proud homosexuals, then those people should expect a backlash.
 
What is interesting is that the military, being primarily involved, was not allowed to vote on this issue.

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Oh. You again.

As one example of Britain's internal workings:



Combine that with Britain's military Gay Parade and sensitivty training.

Indeed me again. And the military is not a democracy. They didn't get to vote on the war in Afganistan either.

Your source is interesting. Classes on tolerance is not quite the same thing as playing homosexual though.
 
Hi shipmate. Good to see you and your ellipses. Also good to see you prognosticating skills remain as always. Your overblown rhetoric is in top form today.

On the plus side, when you visit a ship next time, you could end up with a date!

I hope I am wrong but I know I am not..........In the civilian world militant gays flaunt their sexuality all the time....They can get away with it there but when they are aboard ship and checking out a straight shipmates lunch and the guy knows it, that will be hell to pay........A lot of things that in the past might have been innocent touching won't be look at it that way.......Damn the people that want to use our brave military for social experimentation...........,
 
As soon as the flaunting starts the incidents will start destrying morale and unit cohesion.........Stay tuned.........
I hope that isn't true, but no person should have to hide who they are for the sake of "unit cohesion". If there are people in the armed forces that can't deal with the concept of homosexuality, that's their problem, and they are the ones to be blamed for a lack of unit cohesion. And I give them more credit than beating the **** out of gays just because they are gay. Sure, it's bound to happen here and there, but that level of ignorance can unfortunately only be combated by exposure. Hiding the "problem" solves nothing.
 
He specifically said "the guys in combat arms," not the entire military. He also said that personally he doesn't care either way, and that he's served alongside gay soldiers who did their jobs fine.

Unsurprisingly, most combat arms Marine and Army said the same if they responded that they had already served with a gay soldier.
 
I can't wait to see how things turn out. The Marine's chief has said that he would not put a gag order out on dissenters of the repeal, so if there is trouble, chances are it won't be coming from the gays.
 
Indeed me again. And the military is not a democracy. They didn't get to vote on the war in Afganistan either.

Your source is interesting. Classes on tolerance is not quite the same thing as playing homosexual though.

But the United States has become a democracy (or an empire ruled by DC, depending on how you look at it), and there is no sacred 'right' to serve in the military. If there was such a right, then the military would have to accept everyone who applies. They don't. They have their tests and standards, and they reject people. It's like the police force. You have to pass requirements and tests, then you're either accepted or rejected.
 
Now what happens with transgenders and transvestities? Are they treated as men or women? Will females like them with penises to dress and shower with them........

We have just touched the tip of the iceberg............
 
He specifically said "the guys in combat arms," not the entire military. He also said that personally he doesn't care either way, and that he's served alongside gay soldiers who did their jobs fine.

The guys in combat arms who have served knowingly with gays overwhelmingly think it won't be a problem.
 
Now what happens with transgenders and transvestities? Are they treated as men or women? Will females like them with penises to dress and shower with them........

We have just touched the tip of the iceberg............

Still barred from service Navy.
 
But the United States has become a democracy (or an empire ruled by DC, depending on how you look at it), and there is no sacred 'right' to serve in the military. If there was such a right, then the military would have to accept everyone who applies. They don't. They have their tests and standards, and they reject people. It's like the police force. You have to pass requirements and tests, then you're either accepted or rejected.

I can't believe I have to explain this, but the US is not a democracy. It is a federal republic. Military people get to vote for their congressmen just like the rest of us. They don't get to make up their own rules, but instead most uphold the constitution and follow the laws congress sets down for them.
 
The guys in combat arms who have served knowingly with gays overwhelmingly think it won't be a problem.

I wouldn't know either way. He was the one with the army experience saying that people would get beat to death.
 
It helped improve the American standard of living.

Young people of this era will experience the bitterness of being the first generation to have declining living standards.

You know what would have really helped improve the American standard of living?

Improving the American standard of living.
 
I can't wait to see how things turn out. The Marine's chief has said that he would not put a gag order out on dissenters of the repeal, so if there is trouble, chances are it won't be coming from the gays.

He said that? Do you have a source?
 
Indeed me again. And the military is not a democracy. They didn't get to vote on the war in Afganistan either.

Your source is interesting. Classes on tolerance is not quite the same thing as playing homosexual though.

Military is composed of citizens of America. Being the case, in my interpretation, they should be allowed to vote on everything.

Indeed. Correct, again. You see, I had the source, but I forgot it. Searched for it I did, yet I couldn't find it without going in-depth. I could say it's for true I viewed the source, yet you could say it doesn't exist. In all honesty, don't you hate it when that happens?
 
Has the military completely fallen to pieces yet?
 
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