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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The DoD Has also made it clear that local commander have descesionary authority to make whatever billet arrangements they deem necessary for the good of the command. There's no way in hell that you can say with any amount of certainty, that there will be no seperate billets for gay and straight soldiers.

    I'm starting to wonder why it's such a big to the abolitionists that gay and straight soldiers live in the same barracks. Is it that repressed resentment of all those homophobes out there?
    On a case by case basis they have, not as a policy to have seperate billets.
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    On a case by case basis they have, not as a policy to have seperate billets.
    I think we may be surprised how many, "case-by-case", scenarios there are.

    Hey, I hope I'm wrong about all of this and it goes off without a hitch, but my own experience tells me that that won't be the case.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I think we may be surprised how many, "case-by-case", scenarios there are.

    Hey, I hope I'm wrong about all of this and it goes off without a hitch, but my own experience tells me that that won't be the case.
    Really? All the vast amount of experience you have integrating homosexual troops?
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Really? All the vast amount of experience you have integrating homosexual troops?
    My vast experience in the military's system and my familiarity of the rules and regulations. Not to mention being aware of the fact that just because a person has stars on his collar, or has SECDEF, or even POTUS as a title, doesn't mean they can just through the regulations out the window and do what they want. It just don't work that way.

    Soldiers have rights; rights that are guaranteed by DoD regulations and policies. Those rights can be stripped away with a couple of comments in a newspaper article.

    Those rights, rules, regulations and policies, along with the mandatory adherence to such by everyone in the chain of command, from the top to the bottom, are what make the United States Military the finest fighting force in the history of the human race. Circumvention of this system will have negative consequences.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    My vast experience in the military's system and my familiarity of the rules and regulations. Not to mention being aware of the fact that just because a person has stars on his collar, or has SECDEF, or even POTUS as a title, doesn't mean they can just through the regulations out the window and do what they want. It just don't work that way.

    Soldiers have rights; rights that are guaranteed by DoD regulations and policies. Those rights can be stripped away with a couple of comments in a newspaper article.

    Those rights, rules, regulations and policies, along with the mandatory adherence to such by everyone in the chain of command, from the top to the bottom, are what make the United States Military the finest fighting force in the history of the human race. Circumvention of this system will have negative consequences.
    Obviously you have absolutely no faith in your military at all.

    If you think openly gay troops can bring it down, your opinion of your military is obviously a highly negative one. If they can't handle a gay with them in the foxhole, then they ain't handling ****.

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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Really? All the vast amount of experience you have integrating homosexual troops?
    Man, I can never quite keep up on these newfangled code words.

    The deed is called "integrating", now, is it?
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    My vast experience in the military's system and my familiarity of the rules and regulations. Not to mention being aware of the fact that just because a person has stars on his collar, or has SECDEF, or even POTUS as a title, doesn't mean they can just through the regulations out the window and do what they want. It just don't work that way.

    Soldiers have rights; rights that are guaranteed by DoD regulations and policies. Those rights can be stripped away with a couple of comments in a newspaper article.

    Those rights, rules, regulations and policies, along with the mandatory adherence to such by everyone in the chain of command, from the top to the bottom, are what make the United States Military the finest fighting force in the history of the human race. Circumvention of this system will have negative consequences.
    Soldiers do not have the right to not be uncomfortable. Just like a racist cannot request a different billet because his roommate is black.
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Man, I can never quite keep up on these newfangled code words.

    The deed is called "integrating", now, is it?
    The "funky chicken" will also work.
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Obviously you have absolutely no faith in your military at all.
    That argument is becoming so damn lame. Is that and, "gays are already showering with straights", really the only thing you can come up with? Not a single suggestion from any of you about how to make the transition more comfortable, just the usual Libbos, "yooz a homophobe", and, "why do you hate the the military", crap.

    If you think openly gay troops can bring it down, your opinion of your military is obviously a highly negative one. If they can't handle a gay with them in the foxhole, then they ain't handling ****.
    Do you support a lifting of the ban on membership in extremist orginizations?

    You didn't even understand my last post, did you?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That argument is becoming so damn lame. Is that and, "gays are already showering with straights", really the only thing you can come up with? Not a single suggestion from any of you about how to make the transition more comfortable, just the usual Libbos, "yooz a homophobe", and, "why do you hate the the military", crap.



    Do you support a lifting of the ban on membership in extremist orginizations?

    You didn't even understand my last post, did you?
    And you resort to I don't even know what....

    How is it not true, that if you think the Military can be brought down by a few homosexuals, that you don't think highly of the military?

    I didn't say you hate it. I didn't say you're a homophobe.

    You know, it really pisses me off how you continually accuse everyone of playing the race card, and then you play the homophobe card ON YOURSELF.

    Classy move buddy, stay classy.

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