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    Re: DADT cloture passes

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    I,ll take the Commandants word for it.

    <I, and the Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps [Carlton Kent], will personally lead this effort, thus ensuring the respect and dignity due all Marines,” Amos said. “On this matter, we look forward to further demonstrating to the American people the discipline and loyalty that have been the hallmark of the United States Marine Corps for over 235 years.>

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    Does the Commandant state, anywhere in that source, that he doesn't intend on making barracks arrangments, based on sexual orientation? His idea of the best way to integrate gays into the Marine corps, may be to segregate living quarters.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: DADT cloture passes

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    True and so far, there are no rules saying that he can't make whatever billetting policy he deems fit for his service.
    Except for the Secretary of Defense saying it's not going to happen.
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Everything I've been reading says it's not going to happen, no matter what the Commandant wants.

    But the answer is no. Secretary Gates actually put this to rest earlier this month, saying that no separate facilities will be built to separate gay and straight service members. Military officials say doing so would create divisions and, quote, "inappropriately isolate a portion of the force."
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Does the Commandant state, anywhere in that source, that he doesn't intend on making barracks arrangments, based on sexual orientation? His idea of the best way to integrate gays into the Marine corps, may be to segregate living quarters.
    No but like any other loyal Marine he did say this.

    <"Fidelity is the essence of the United States Marine Corps. Above all else, we are loyal to the Constitution, our Commander in Chief, Congress, our Chain of Command, and the American people>

    So I take him for his word that the top Marine will treat all of his troops like what they are MARINES. They will have to perform just like they did last week, last year, or ten years ago, LIKE MARINES.

    Which means they will be sleeping besides OTHER MARINES wherever they are stationed. Be it 11 area at Camp Pendleton, or shaking scorpions out of their boots at the Stumps.
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    No but like any other loyal Marine he did say this.

    <"Fidelity is the essence of the United States Marine Corps. Above all else, we are loyal to the Constitution, our Commander in Chief, Congress, our Chain of Command, and the American people>

    So I take him for his word that the top Marine will treat all of his troops like what they are MARINES. They will have to perform just like they did last week, last year, or ten years ago, LIKE MARINES.

    Which means they will be sleeping besides OTHER MARINES wherever they are stationed. Be it 11 area at Camp Pendleton, or shaking scorpions out of their boots at the Stumps.
    Exactly. They were professionals last month, they'll be professionals next month. Those who can't wont last very long, or so says every marine that I know. As a buddy of mine put it "Deuce, a couple months ago a bullet came across my face so close that it actually tore a little piece off my ear. Half inch the other way and it would have gone in my eye. I got other ****in things to worry about."
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Except for the Secretary of Defense saying it's not going to happen.
    Did the DECDEF issue a specific order? He made a comment to the press to make his civilian handlers happy rather than issueing a standing order.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    No but like any other loyal Marine he did say this.

    <"Fidelity is the essence of the United States Marine Corps. Above all else, we are loyal to the Constitution, our Commander in Chief, Congress, our Chain of Command, and the American people>

    So I take him for his word that the top Marine will treat all of his troops like what they are MARINES. They will have to perform just like they did last week, last year, or ten years ago, LIKE MARINES.

    Which means they will be sleeping besides OTHER MARINES wherever they are stationed. Be it 11 area at Camp Pendleton, or shaking scorpions out of their boots at the Stumps.
    Female Marines aren't treated like Marines? They're made to live in seperate quarters.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Exactly. They were professionals last month, they'll be professionals next month. Those who can't wont last very long, or so says every marine that I know. As a buddy of mine put it "Deuce, a couple months ago a bullet came across my face so close that it actually tore a little piece off my ear. Half inch the other way and it would have gone in my eye. I got other ****in things to worry about."
    I'm sure you rushed your butt out to enlist, this morning. Didn't you?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Female Marines aren't treated like Marines? They're made to live in seperate quarters.
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Female Marines aren't treated like Marines? They're made to live in seperate quarters.
    Which brings forth an interesting question for ya apdst. How is the cohesion between the guys and the gals since you have stated that it hurts cohesion by having troops live seperately. Or did I misunderstand you?
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