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    Re: DADT cloture passes

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    Re: DADT cloture passes

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    You can make of it what you please. I'm just pointing out an historical fact.
    Actually, you are trying to connect two dots that are not even in the same plane of existence. It fails, apdst.
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is not quite accurate. Gays are allowed to serve by ruling of the Major-General of the Medical Service in Russia. Gays in russia in general have all the same rights as straits except they cannot marry, and since adoption is only to married couples, they cannot adopt.

    If you don't need to look things up, then why are you asking us to do your homework for you?
    Ok, let us get this cleared up: It is my belief that Russian gays canít sue the military if they feel like they didnít get a promotion they were qualified for simply because they are gay. I donít have to look it up because I know it to be true balls to bones.

    I also think the same is true for 99% of the countries you folks are throwing in my face in an attempt to make the US look like it is more bigoted than the rest of the world.

    I call you on your claim that Russia (an others) not having a ban on gays is the same as it is in the US. Gays have rights, as a protected group, in the US that they donít have in other countries.

    So, if you think you can just throw out a list of countries that donít have bans on gays serving in the military and claim that wins your argument for you, you are mistaken.

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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    1. Of course the reasons are political. Did you really think it’s because people Americans just hate gay people and want to make their lives miserable?

    I look a little beyond such elementary thoughts and try to see the bigger picture.

    2. Oh, “Motion to Concur in the House Amendment to the Senate Amendment to H.R. 2965” is the legislation I’m referring to.
    1. Yes, some people hate gay people and want to make their lives miserable. Or, they fear them like Critical Thought said.

    2. That is the legislation being discussed here, but you said something about legislation that could harm our miltary. HR 2965 won't do that, notwithstanding your drama.
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

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    I have more evidence than you do.
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Actually, you are trying to connect two dots that are not even in the same plane of existence. It fails, apdst.
    It doesn't matter what planes they are in, if it's just two dots, they can be mathematically connected and share a common plane.

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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    It doesn't matter what planes they are in, if it's just two dots, they can be mathematically connected and share a common plane.
    Not if they are in different planes of existence. But, regardless, it was an expression used to explain that he attempted to connect something that had no connect. Of course, if you disagree, you can give it a shot.
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Ok, let us get this cleared up: It is my belief that Russian gays can’t sue the military if they feel like they didn’t get a promotion they were qualified for simply because they are gay. I don’t have to look it up because I know it to be true balls to bones.

    I also think the same is true for 99% of the countries you folks are throwing in my face in an attempt to make the US look like it is more bigoted than the rest of the world.

    I call you on your claim that Russia (an others) not having a ban on gays is the same as it is in the US. Gays have rights, as a protected group, in the US that they don’t have in other countries.

    So, if you think you can just throw out a list of countries that don’t have bans on gays serving in the military and claim that wins your argument for you, you are mistaken.
    US servicemembers are not allowed to sue the military while they are in the military. So what exactly is your issue? Do you think that homosexuals will be given some sort of very special privilege of being the only group of military members to be able to sue the military while they are in the military? Don't see it happening.
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    1. Yes, some people hate gay people and want to make their lives miserable. Or, they fear them like Critical Thought said.

    2. That is the legislation being discussed here, but you said something about legislation that could harm our miltary. HR 2965 won't do that, notwithstanding your drama.
    1. That is a fact of life. If gays are ok joining the military knowing that there will be a lot of people who will hate them because they are gay, more power to them.
    2. My drama? lol, I’m talking about the shortcomings of this bill and all you can come up with is my “drama”? lol

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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    US servicemembers are not allowed to sue the military while they are in the military. So what exactly is your issue? Do you think that homosexuals will be given some sort of very special privilege of being the only group of military members to be able to sue the military while they are in the military? Don't see it happening.
    Really? I’ll have to confirm this, but if true, this will have a major impact on my reasons for opposing the bill.

    I honestly hope you are correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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