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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Got any numbers on that?
    Nope. Just those examples.

    You'll never find any numbers concerning gays serving in the Japanese Army during WW2. They never had an anti-gay policy, because of their denial of the existance of gays.
    Was not looking for numbers, and it isn't a big deal. I just got curious and tried to see what was said about it and found nothing.
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I think the factor that we had a bunch of brainy Jews build us a super bomb, might be a tad more promiment.
    That had more to do with when the Japanese surrender, not if they surrendered.

    The Manhatten Project wasn't made up of all Jews. Nice racist remark, though.
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Are you factoring in Pearl Harbor for these "better maneuvering tactics"?
    No. In that instance, the superior homosexual tactics employed by the Japanese was the decisive factor.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I would say the more prominent factor was superior naval and aviation hardware and a larger production base, combined with better maneuvering tactics on the seas.
    Had to have men to use that equipment. And, no war has been won without putting grunts on the ground to defeat the enemy in close quarter combat. You think the superior tactics and equipment would have meant jack ****, without marines and soldiers to assault those island bases?


    Also, we figured out nukes first.

    Didn't have anything to do with Japan's defeat.

    I'd also say queers had nothing to do with anything.
    Your entitled to your opinion, but you have nothing to back that up with.
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post

    Your entitled to your opinion, but you have nothing to back that up with.
    Which is precisely the amount of evidence that supports the idea that homosexuals have a negative impact on military performance.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Had to have men to use that equipment. And, no war has been won without putting grunts on the ground to defeat the enemy in close quarter combat. You think the superior tactics and equipment would have meant jack ****, without marines and soldiers to assault those island bases?


    Also, we figured out nukes first.

    Didn't have anything to do with Japan's defeat.



    Your entitled to your opinion, but you have nothing to back that up with.
    The US won not only because we had better troops. In fact, to start we really didn't have better troops. We won because of superior tactics, better equipment, a willingness to do what it took to win, larger manpower and industrial pools, technical superiority, and other things. If gays did more commonly serve in the japanese military than in the US military(so far nothing to actually back that up, though it may very well be true), it affects only one aspect. There is no evidence to suggest that gays had any impact on Japanese effectiveness in WW2 that I can find, either to make it better or worse.
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Which is precisely the amount of evidence that supports the idea that homosexuals have a negative impact on military performance.
    I have more evidence than you do.
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The US won not only because we had better troops. In fact, to start we really didn't have better troops. We won because of superior tactics, better equipment, a willingness to do what it took to win, larger manpower and industrial pools, technical superiority, and other things. If gays did more commonly serve in the japanese military than in the US military(so far nothing to actually back that up, though it may very well be true), it affects only one aspect. There is no evidence to suggest that gays had any impact on Japanese effectiveness in WW2 that I can find, either to make it better or worse.
    I never said it was. I only pointed an historical reference and you all freak out over it and mae something out of nothing.
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I have more evidence than you do.
    *waits patiently*
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I never said it was. I only pointed an historical reference and you all freak out over it and mae something out of nothing.
    My reaction was anything but freaked out. My reaction was curiosity at a historical detail I had never heard before and trying to find out more. I am not a WW2 expert or anything, but I do have a nice section of WW2 books(and will probably get another couple for Xmas) and have a real curiosity on the subject.
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