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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Hi shipmate. Good to see you and your ellipses. Also good to see you prognosticating skills remain as always. Your overblown rhetoric is in top form today.

    On the plus side, when you visit a ship next time, you could end up with a date!
    I hope I am wrong but I know I am not..........In the civilian world militant gays flaunt their sexuality all the time....They can get away with it there but when they are aboard ship and checking out a straight shipmates lunch and the guy knows it, that will be hell to pay........A lot of things that in the past might have been innocent touching won't be look at it that way.......Damn the people that want to use our brave military for social experimentation...........,
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    As soon as the flaunting starts the incidents will start destrying morale and unit cohesion.........Stay tuned.........
    I hope that isn't true, but no person should have to hide who they are for the sake of "unit cohesion". If there are people in the armed forces that can't deal with the concept of homosexuality, that's their problem, and they are the ones to be blamed for a lack of unit cohesion. And I give them more credit than beating the **** out of gays just because they are gay. Sure, it's bound to happen here and there, but that level of ignorance can unfortunately only be combated by exposure. Hiding the "problem" solves nothing.

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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent View Post
    He specifically said "the guys in combat arms," not the entire military. He also said that personally he doesn't care either way, and that he's served alongside gay soldiers who did their jobs fine.
    Unsurprisingly, most combat arms Marine and Army said the same if they responded that they had already served with a gay soldier.
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    I can't wait to see how things turn out. The Marine's chief has said that he would not put a gag order out on dissenters of the repeal, so if there is trouble, chances are it won't be coming from the gays.

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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Indeed me again. And the military is not a democracy. They didn't get to vote on the war in Afganistan either.

    Your source is interesting. Classes on tolerance is not quite the same thing as playing homosexual though.
    But the United States has become a democracy (or an empire ruled by DC, depending on how you look at it), and there is no sacred 'right' to serve in the military. If there was such a right, then the military would have to accept everyone who applies. They don't. They have their tests and standards, and they reject people. It's like the police force. You have to pass requirements and tests, then you're either accepted or rejected.

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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Now what happens with transgenders and transvestities? Are they treated as men or women? Will females like them with penises to dress and shower with them........

    We have just touched the tip of the iceberg............
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent View Post
    He specifically said "the guys in combat arms," not the entire military. He also said that personally he doesn't care either way, and that he's served alongside gay soldiers who did their jobs fine.
    The guys in combat arms who have served knowingly with gays overwhelmingly think it won't be a problem.
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    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Now what happens with transgenders and transvestities? Are they treated as men or women? Will females like them with penises to dress and shower with them........

    We have just touched the tip of the iceberg............
    Still barred from service Navy.
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent View Post
    But the United States has become a democracy (or an empire ruled by DC, depending on how you look at it), and there is no sacred 'right' to serve in the military. If there was such a right, then the military would have to accept everyone who applies. They don't. They have their tests and standards, and they reject people. It's like the police force. You have to pass requirements and tests, then you're either accepted or rejected.
    I can't believe I have to explain this, but the US is not a democracy. It is a federal republic. Military people get to vote for their congressmen just like the rest of us. They don't get to make up their own rules, but instead most uphold the constitution and follow the laws congress sets down for them.
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    Re: DADT cloture passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The guys in combat arms who have served knowingly with gays overwhelmingly think it won't be a problem.
    I wouldn't know either way. He was the one with the army experience saying that people would get beat to death.

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