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    Re: U.S. proposes cellphone ban for truck drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I can talk and drive on certain roads.. I text while a drive too.. but it's illegal here. OMG! I'mma law breaker.
    I certainly don't feel like I can devote as much attention to driving if I try to fiddle with a cell phone to make or take a call. Fuhgeddabout texting. I really do believe that texting while driving is extremely dangerous.

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    Re: U.S. proposes cellphone ban for truck drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh believe you me, I know this full well. there are also many more auto's out there that don't know the laws of the road anymore either. So I guess my question thrown out there is why single out truckers? When the studies cited show that we are responsible for a fraction of accidents involving cell phones as the stated cause. And cells are a fraction of accidents caused by distraction beyond that.

    See, if talking through a blue tooth is distracting enough to cause an accident, and the government must protect us from that, then conversations with passengers have to be stopped as well, so too transporting children, and listening to radio or music, and so on.

    No, truckers are the easy target, and I get sick of that, considering I believe that auto drivers should be held to the same standards as truckers, and we'd decrease the congestion of highways by half I'd bet. Besides we as truckers pay the most as a percentage for those roads, and the interstate system was specifically built for us, and the military. We allow cars to use them.


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    I agree that truck drivers are easy targets and since CSA 2010 came out, I have a special hard-on for government regulation of the trucking industry. But, there are more than a few steering wheel holders out there that brought this on us. I think the biggest problem that the trucking industry faces, are people who drive trucks, that think they're still driving a car and negotiate the road in the same manner.
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    Re: U.S. proposes cellphone ban for truck drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    More than likely the reason that truckers are often used as an example is because a 60k lb rig will do far more damage than a 10k lb car. Everyone knows this so its a more visible subject than a little ole toyota.
    What about when that four-wheeler causes the accident? If you make a mileage comparison, cars/pick-up trucks cause waaaaaaay more damage than big trucks do.
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    Re: U.S. proposes cellphone ban for truck drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What about when that four-wheeler causes the accident? If you make a mileage comparison, cars/pick-up trucks cause waaaaaaay more damage than big trucks do.
    In the long run most definately for the simple fact that there are far more cars on the road than trucks. But on a one to one (one car vs one truck for one instance) basis no. And that is what most people will focus on. What happens over a year rarely is the focus of individuals.
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    Re: U.S. proposes cellphone ban for truck drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I am so sick of this type of smear coming out of mental midgets like LaHood, and others that seek to blame the ills of driving and accident rates on Truckers. It is intellectually lazy.

    We deliver the things you use every damned day, and what thanks do we get for it? Flipped off, honked at, called in on threatening our lively hood, and ever increasing regulation and taxation that will result in Americans paying much higher costs at the check out line.

    Car drivers have over the years, my own some 20 years driving, become rude, rule of the road breakers, and completely selfish in their driving, not caring a bit whom they place in danger. And who constantly gets the blame for it? We do, Truckers!

    Heck even stories on the news that show truck vs car accidents on the highways often don't tell the watchers until the very end of the story that the car was at fault.

    Lawyers cashing in, suing even if their client was the cause of the accident like bottom feeders they are.

    Now, I am not saying that there are some truckers out there that are inexperienced, and do cause some problems, however, you keep it up, (talking to the ungrateful masses here) and just wait. When myself, and my cohorts that do have the experience decide to pack it in, then you'll be left with nothing but greenhorns. Good luck with that.


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    Well, J-mac, your "delivering of the things we use every damned day" doesn't give you the right to endanger lives more than they are already endangered. While I certainly do not agree with the gov't banning people from doing something legit in a car, your doing some things, while on the road, endanger others. There is the big catch. I am against ANYBODY doing anything distracting while driving, sans having a conversation in the car. There is a difference, you don't have to conscientiously answer a phone if it's someone in the car. I've driven for 15 years, without a single accident and one yellow light violation (not a red light running ticket, ironically enough) in those 15 years, long long expunged. I drove my truck twice while on the phone, and it terrified me. I always drive alone, have my radio preset, and I do very little while driving. I have HAM radio, but since that's no more than a CB with better range, I am not against having it or having truckers use them. The conversations on CB's are short lived due to range/congestion limits, but cell phone conversations can go on for HOURS.

    While I don't think the gov't has a right to infringe on what you can do inside your vehicle, I do not believe that you have a right to do something that endangers my life, or anyone elses. This doesn't mean that we don't respect truck drivers (we took a 700 mile car trip today from Tennessee to south Louisiana and saw no fewer than 15 truckers who were 1. Exceeding the speed limit, 2. swerving, 3. not using blinkers correctly, 4. Tailgating so don't pretend that truckers are god's gift to the freeway) but you don't get special privileges because you haul my junk. Because getting technical, if it wasn't for me putting a demand on the junk you haul, you'd be out of a job. So you should be thanking us for buying ****, not getting pissy because we don't want 80,000lbs of big rig at 70mph controlled by a driver who is too busy babbling with someone on the other side of the country about what their little boy did at soccer.

    And no, not every distraction can be eliminated. But most truckers ride alone, and cell phones are a controllable distraction, so why wouldn't you want to be safe? They've already done tests and proven while talking on a cell phone you are a less attentive driver. It's not a secret. To argue it would be asinine.

    http://www.edgarsnyder.com/car-accid...tatistics.html

    # A car driver dialing a cell phone is 2.8 times more likely to get into a crash than a non-distracted driver.
    No, shut up and drive. Talk on the CB, but put down the phone. I'll lead by example. Truckers "trucked" for decades before cell phones were invented with nothing more than an am/fm radio and a CB and they managed. I agree with banning truckers from using them while driving but only because I think they should be banned across the board for all drivers.
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    Re: U.S. proposes cellphone ban for truck drivers

    I have no problem banning holding phone to ear but headsets should be allowed. I always wear a head set. My communication with my dispatch is done by phone. If I get a call I press a button on my headset and I answer no touching the phone.

    What is next will it be illegal to use my CB also?

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    Re: U.S. proposes cellphone ban for truck drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    In the long run most definately for the simple fact that there are far more cars on the road than trucks. But on a one to one (one car vs one truck for one instance) basis no. And that is what most people will focus on. What happens over a year rarely is the focus of individuals.
    Mile for mile, truck drivers are involved in fewer accidents than civilian drivers in cars and pick-ups.
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    Re: U.S. proposes cellphone ban for truck drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    I have no problem banning holding phone to ear but headsets should be allowed. I always wear a head set. My communication with my dispatch is done by phone. If I get a call I press a button on my headset and I answer no touching the phone.

    What is next will it be illegal to use my CB also?
    That's what I was wondering.

    I don't personally have any CB usage experiance, but I was under the impression you had to hold a mic in your hand...isn't that similar to holding a cellphone to your ear?

    If one is "distracting", the other probably is as well...
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    Re: U.S. proposes cellphone ban for truck drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    That's what I was wondering.

    I don't personally have any CB usage experiance, but I was under the impression you had to hold a mic in your hand...isn't that similar to holding a cellphone to your ear?

    If one is "distracting", the other probably is as well...
    I'm an oilfield truck driver and haul for BP and Shell quite a bit. BP's and Shell's policy, is that any contract truck hauling their equipment is prohibited from using any two-way communication device, while driving. The only exception being a permit load that requires an escort, because state law requires that the driver and the escort must be in communication at all times.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. proposes cellphone ban for truck drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Mile for mile, truck drivers are involved in fewer accidents than civilian drivers in cars and pick-ups.
    I'm not disputing that. I'm just trying to explain the likely reason that truckers are targeted more often than someone that drives a car. It's all about perception.
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