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    Re: U.S. proposes cellphone ban for truck drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    My understanding, (and I haven't seen the law, but a couple of truckers have told me this), is that there is a Federal ban on truckers carrying a gun in the cab or on their person, regardless of whether they have a carry permit or not, and regardless of state law. What I heard was, this was done during the big trucker/teamster strikes of the 70s (?), when there was a certain level of violence going on between strikers and others... and like most Fed laws it has outlived its usefulness but remained in place (if it ever really had any usefulness).
    That's a fact. It's in the Federal DOT Handbook.

    I got smoked a few years back with this rule. Cost me about five grand, over three years, to get it taken care of.

    Good thing I went ahead and spent the money, since now, we have to get FBI back ground checks to hold a hazmat endorsement and get a TWIC.

    Domestic truck drivers have to go through more **** than an illegal alien, or an international terrorist.
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    Re: U.S. proposes cellphone ban for truck drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You won't read mine, but I did read yours, and here is something from your own provided link



    So changing the radio station was responsible for nearly 30% of crashes, while cell phones were responsible for 1.5%

    Yeah, should we remove radios from cars as well?
    Keep reading it. They have newer studies in that link also.

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    And from the other:



    Wow, a whole 40 people? Really, and from that, and 10 hours they conclude this trash? Give me a break!
    Yeah, figured you'd say that. Doesn't change the fact that all of those 40 people were affected.
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    Re: U.S. proposes cellphone ban for truck drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Keep reading it. They have newer studies in that link also.

    Nah, At a whopping 1.5% I'll take my chances, and just turn it off in the facist states like NY which I never go to anymore, and talk in the reasonable states.

    I have to say though, what a crock that those who have never driven a truck, seem to think they know so much about it. I'd like to see a study on just cell use using hands free. I notice that all the studies seem to lump in hands free, but never show why, or how they reached those conclusions.

    Yeah, figured you'd say that. Doesn't change the fact that all of those 40 people were affected.
    Well, I have a sample size of 660 truckers that say they are not affected.....So do I win?

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    Re: U.S. proposes cellphone ban for truck drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    oh good grief.

    pack it in. someone else will take the job.

    that's about an ignorant statement.....Why would I pack it in? So I could be like you? Jobless?


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    Re: U.S. proposes cellphone ban for truck drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I am so sick of this type of smear coming out of mental midgets like LaHood, and others that seek to blame the ills of driving and accident rates on Truckers. It is intellectually lazy.

    We deliver the things you use every damned day, and what thanks do we get for it? Flipped off, honked at, called in on threatening our lively hood, and ever increasing regulation and taxation that will result in Americans paying much higher costs at the check out line.

    Car drivers have over the years, my own some 20 years driving, become rude, rule of the road breakers, and completely selfish in their driving, not caring a bit whom they place in danger. And who constantly gets the blame for it? We do, Truckers!

    Heck even stories on the news that show truck vs car accidents on the highways often don't tell the watchers until the very end of the story that the car was at fault.

    Lawyers cashing in, suing even if their client was the cause of the accident like bottom feeders they are.

    Now, I am not saying that there are some truckers out there that are inexperienced, and do cause some problems, however, you keep it up, (talking to the ungrateful masses here) and just wait. When myself, and my cohorts that do have the experience decide to pack it in, then you'll be left with nothing but greenhorns. Good luck with that.


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    Part of the problem here is that you are taking this way too personal.

    The law was not written for you personally but for the masses.

    Am certain you could partipate in a truck rodeo with only one hand................... but there are a lot of klutzes driving out there. You can see them. The one who drives 4 more blocks looking for a parking space as paralell parking frightens them. There are people who are just terrible behind the wheel. Those people should not be on the phone too.

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    Re: U.S. proposes cellphone ban for truck drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nah, At a whopping 1.5% I'll take my chances, and just turn it off in the facist states like NY which I never go to anymore, and talk in the reasonable states.
    So you'll go by a study that is old and disregard a new study...gotcha.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I have to say though, what a crock that those who have never driven a truck, seem to think they know so much about it.
    One doesn't have to drive a truck to know that a 60,000lb rig won't stop on a dime or turns like a beached whale.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I'd like to see a study on just cell use using hands free. I notice that all the studies seem to lump in hands free, but never show why, or how they reached those conclusions.
    If you had actually read those studies then you would know that they also test people using hands-free devices...not just hand held. As such they can easily evaluate the two together to see if there is a difference between the two. I'm sure that if there had been a difference you would have jumped at that and used it. Since there isn't...well.....

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, I have a sample size of 660 truckers that say they are not affected.....So do I win?
    Only if you put em in a study group that shows they are not affected. If they say it themselves then nope. I'm sure that the people who have crashed because they were on a cell phone once said that they were not affected also.
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    Re: U.S. proposes cellphone ban for truck drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I am so sick of this type of smear coming out of mental midgets like LaHood, and others that seek to blame the ills of driving and accident rates on Truckers. It is intellectually lazy.

    We deliver the things you use every damned day, and what thanks do we get for it? Flipped off, honked at, called in on threatening our lively hood, and ever increasing regulation and taxation that will result in Americans paying much higher costs at the check out line.

    Car drivers have over the years, my own some 20 years driving, become rude, rule of the road breakers, and completely selfish in their driving, not caring a bit whom they place in danger. And who constantly gets the blame for it? We do, Truckers!

    Heck even stories on the news that show truck vs car accidents on the highways often don't tell the watchers until the very end of the story that the car was at fault.

    Lawyers cashing in, suing even if their client was the cause of the accident like bottom feeders they are.

    Now, I am not saying that there are some truckers out there that are inexperienced, and do cause some problems, however, you keep it up, (talking to the ungrateful masses here) and just wait. When myself, and my cohorts that do have the experience decide to pack it in, then you'll be left with nothing but greenhorns. Good luck with that.


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    Re: U.S. proposes cellphone ban for truck drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Do you see it as targeting? Every vehicle is taking the heat right now.

    Doesn't seem logical to me to ban cellphone use by truckers. IMO, they are some of the safest drivers on the road, by the way. I could see mandating hands-free only....but I can see that for passenger cars as well. Truck drivers need some distraction to stay alert when driving, IMO. Cellphone calls can accomplish that quite nicely.
    How about a tax break for installing voice communication and navigation systems in truck fleets for carriers, instead of punishing individuals?
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    Re: U.S. proposes cellphone ban for truck drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The sooner Republicans take over Congress, the better. Not sure if anyone posted it, but here.

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/documents/M...RM_12-7-10.pdf

    Thanks for the link, I have seen that, and the article I posted says that LaHood wants to go further by going after bluetooth devices as well.

    The CSA2010 that they are having trouble implementing, if completed is going to do great harm to the nations carriers in the matter of seasoned veteran drivers that will be gone.


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    Re: U.S. proposes cellphone ban for truck drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I am so sick of this type of smear coming out of mental midgets like LaHood, and others that seek to blame the ills of driving and accident rates on Truckers. It is intellectually lazy.

    We deliver the things you use every damned day, and what thanks do we get for it? Flipped off, honked at, called in on threatening our lively hood, and ever increasing regulation and taxation that will result in Americans paying much higher costs at the check out line.

    Car drivers have over the years, my own some 20 years driving, become rude, rule of the road breakers, and completely selfish in their driving, not caring a bit whom they place in danger. And who constantly gets the blame for it? We do, Truckers!

    Heck even stories on the news that show truck vs car accidents on the highways often don't tell the watchers until the very end of the story that the car was at fault.

    Lawyers cashing in, suing even if their client was the cause of the accident like bottom feeders they are.

    Now, I am not saying that there are some truckers out there that are inexperienced, and do cause some problems, however, you keep it up, (talking to the ungrateful masses here) and just wait. When myself, and my cohorts that do have the experience decide to pack it in, then you'll be left with nothing but greenhorns. Good luck with that.


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    But, driver, there are hands out there that don't have any business driving trucks, much less driving trucks with a cellular stuck in their ear. 42?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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