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    WikiLeaks: Cuba banned Sicko for depicting 'mythical' healthcare system

    This is... this is just... wow.

    WikiLeaks: Cuba banned Sicko for depicting 'mythical' healthcare system | World news | guardian.co.uk

    Cuba banned Michael Moore's 2007 documentary, Sicko, because it painted such a "mythically" favourable picture of Cuba's healthcare system that the authorities feared it could lead to a "popular backlash", according to US diplomats in Havana.

    The revelation, contained in a confidential US embassy cable released by WikiLeaks , is surprising, given that the film attempted to discredit the US healthcare system by highlighting what it claimed was the excellence of the Cuban system.

    But the memo reveals that when the film was shown to a group of Cuban doctors, some became so "disturbed at the blatant misrepresentation of healthcare in Cuba that they left the room".

    Castro's government apparently went on to ban the film because, the leaked cable claims, it "knows the film is a myth and does not want to risk a popular backlash by showing to Cubans facilities that are clearly not available to the vast majority of them."
    Is there anyone who can take that movie - and Michael Moore in general - seriously after this? It was so dishonest in its portrayal of the Cuban health care system, it was banned in Cuba for making them look too good. There's something really awe-inspiring about that. You'd think that they'd be tossing it everywhere they could to use as propaganda if it was anywhere even close to being honest (to show why they're better than those capitalist American scum, etc). Yet somehow it must have crossed the line of dishonest and entered the realm of complete fantasy at some point.

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    Re: WikiLeaks: Cuba banned Sicko for depicting 'mythical' healthcare system

    Oh, THAT'S funny.
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    Re: WikiLeaks: Cuba banned Sicko for depicting 'mythical' healthcare system

    I'm not in the least bit surprised.
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    Re: WikiLeaks: Cuba banned Sicko for depicting 'mythical' healthcare system

    Hey, Alanis Morissette -- here's an ACTUAL example of "irony."
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    Re: WikiLeaks: Cuba banned Sicko for depicting 'mythical' healthcare system

    Only the seriously stupid have ever taken Moore's Sicko seriously.

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    Re: WikiLeaks: Cuba banned Sicko for depicting 'mythical' healthcare system

    Oh god, I almost died laughing.

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    Re: WikiLeaks: Cuba banned Sicko for depicting 'mythical' healthcare system

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    This is... this is just... wow.

    WikiLeaks: Cuba banned Sicko for depicting 'mythical' healthcare system | World news | guardian.co.uk



    Is there anyone who can take that movie - and Michael Moore in general - seriously after this? It was so dishonest in its portrayal of the Cuban health care system, it was banned in Cuba for making them look too good. There's something really awe-inspiring about that. You'd think that they'd be tossing it everywhere they could to use as propaganda if it was anywhere even close to being honest (to show why they're better than those capitalist American scum, etc). Yet somehow it must have crossed the line of dishonest and entered the realm of complete fantasy at some point.
    So a US government diplomat during the Bush era sent a cable on what the Bush administration wanted to hear... wupti do... Problem with such a cable, no proof and 100% personal opinion (and wishful thinking) of the sender based on hearsay and a diplomat who was most likely a Bush political appointee.. which means same views and tactics as Bush and his administration in "spicing up" official correspondence to fit the world view of the administration leadership and be as far from factual as possible.

    While I have no love for the Cuban government, things should always be factual and be able to be backed up.
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    Re: WikiLeaks: Cuba banned Sicko for depicting 'mythical' healthcare system

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So a US government diplomat during the Bush era sent a cable on what the Bush administration wanted to hear... wupti do... Problem with such a cable, no proof and 100% personal opinion (and wishful thinking) of the sender based on hearsay and a diplomat who was most likely a Bush political appointee.. which means same views and tactics as Bush and his administration in "spicing up" official correspondence to fit the world view of the administration leadership and be as far from factual as possible.

    While I have no love for the Cuban government, things should always be factual and be able to be backed up.
    You don't seem to have a problem believing the leaks when they about American government or big business. Why are you doubting the cuban one?


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    2.) His death would not stop the leaks or others for doing something similar. In fact it would more than likely make people even more determined to hit the US with leaks. There is already a new competing site that opened yesterday so this kind of exposing of government and big business is set to continue regardless of threats or murders. And frankly I think it is a good thing as a principle. If such sites expose illegalities by government and/or big business then I am all for it.
    3.) What real damage has the leaks actually done other than a bit of pride and embarrassment? A list of "key sites" that most terrorists and enemies most likely knew of already? Making Hilary and a few ambassadors look like fools? Telling the truth about foreign leaders.. oh the shock!http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...-killed-3.html
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    Re: WikiLeaks: Cuba banned Sicko for depicting 'mythical' healthcare system

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Hey, Alanis Morissette -- here's an ACTUAL example of "irony."
    The irony was that the song contained no irony.

    Anyway, Moore being a partisan hack? I, for one, am shocked. Shocked I say!
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    Re: WikiLeaks: Cuba banned Sicko for depicting 'mythical' healthcare system

    I think the liberals in here would do themselves a favor to remember how they embraced Moore after his hit piece on Bush with F/911. Even had him sitting with carter in the grand suite at the Demo convention.

    During the passage of health care last year there were many that embraced Moore's propaganda with willingness....For example:

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut
    His films are from a liberal POV. Fact-based.....

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...l-story-2.html
    The whitewashing of Cuba's health system was all through liberal debate during the last two years. Hazlnut is but one example, and I won't broad brush the entire liberal contingent in here, but let's just say that on more than one occasion liberals have been duped by Moore.

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