WikiLeaks: Cuba banned Sicko for depicting 'mythical' healthcare system

Sandokan said:

In other words, you haven’t be able to answer the question. Let try again.

Can somebody provide reliable sources of the theatrical showing in Cuba of Sicko prior to the State department cable dated January 01, 2008?

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No, because the opening of a documentary in a small country is not something you would find in the news. You have already been given sources that say Sicko was in fact shown in theatres in Cuba. Ignoring it only makes you more wrong.

Sandokan said:

In other words, you haven’t be able to answer the question. Let try again.

Can somebody provide reliable sources of the theatrical showing in Cuba of Sicko prior to the State department cable dated January 01, 2008?

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rof Absence of proof is not proof of absence. Just 'cause Cuba doesn't publish the release dates of films on the internet, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Sandokan said:

… Can you provide the “simple facts” of when the movie was shown in Cuba in January 2008? It shouldn’t be difficult for you to provide reliable sources of the theatrical showing in Cuba in January 2008.

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While not precisely the information you requested, the Associated Press back in June, 2007 reported this story which does not suggest that the film was about to be banned in Cuba, far from it.

Excerpted from “Moore's 'Sicko' gets nod from Cuba; Cuba health minister says documentary shows Cuba's 'human values'” BY ANDREA RODRIGUEZ, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS, The Daily News (NYC), Saturday, June 16th 2007, 4:00 AM
[SIZE="+2"]C[/SIZE]uba's health minister said Friday that American filmmaker Michael Moore's documentary "Sicko" highlights the human values of the island's communist-run government.

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So, how could the U.S. Embassy cable seven months later claim that the documentary was banned in Cuba? And, as you know, just a few months after that, the film not only was shown in Cuba, but, was freely broadcast on television. It would seem the cable was wrong; intentional or not, clearly wrong.

Chappy said:

While not precisely the information you requested, the Associated Press back in June, 2007 reported this story which does not suggest that the film was about to be banned in Cuba, far from it.



So, how could the U.S. Embassy cable seven months later claim that the documentary was banned in Cuba? And, as you know, just a few months after that, the film not only was shown in Cuba, but, was freely broadcast on television. It would seem the cable was wrong; intentional or not, clearly wrong.

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Please go back to page 6, post # 59. You will find the answer there. The cable doesn't "claim" that the documentary was banned. The leaked cable quotes an unidentified source that said it was banned. I haven’t said that it wasn’t shown, what I question was the date of the theatrical released previous to the TV showing.

As for Moore’s sharp reply, I would like more hard data on those Sicko showings. The documentary Sicko has a duration of 123 minutes, and it premiere on the Cubavision Roundtable TV program of 60 minutes duration. The TV program format includes an introduction, the main subject and a round table discussion of it. This format will provide no more that 45 minutes in the most favorable circumstances for the main subject. When and where the theatrical showing occurred? How much and what part of it was shown on the TV program? How many regular Cubans saw it in its entirety and continue to see it? It is know that Moore play with the truth like silly putty, stretching and molding it to fit his agenda.

The truth is that there are many movies and documentaries, due to the regime censorship, that aren’t shown on theaters or on TV in Dr. Castro’s island.

Michael Moore knew exactly what he was doing when he made that documentary. He was so obsessed by his partisan politics that telling the truth was never a part of his goals. He knew what was going on in Cuba under the Castros regime.

Michael Moore exaggerates, exploit half-truths and tell bald faced lies. He doesn’t do it on principle but rather to gain notoriety, media attention and money, which in Moore’s case is twice as ridiculous, considering how he hates capitalism while enjoying its benefits.

A good lesson from this media commotion is that it have served to reveal to people just how atrocious Cuba's health care system really is, and at the same time attracts coverage on Moore, helping to expose him as a millionaire propagandist whose objective is to keep important stories hidden from all who fancy themselves to be progressives.

You're assuming facts not in evidence, namely that Cuba's health care system is atrocious. Not imperfect. Not even inferior. Atrocious.

Chappy said:

You're assuming facts not in evidence, namely that Cuba's health care system is atrocious. Not imperfect. Not even inferior. Atrocious.

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Looks pretty atrocious to me.........

Chappy said:

You're assuming facts not in evidence, namely that Cuba's health care system is atrocious. Not imperfect. Not even inferior. Atrocious.

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I am not assuming facts or evidence, I am only posting the real facts and evidences as state by the Wikileak cables from the US Interest Section in Havana. Here is the Debate Politics forum link:

Cables spotlight health woes in Cuba
http://www.debatepolitics.com/gener...potlight-health-woes-cuba.html#post1059225764

When it comes to Wikileaks... or just about anything else, for that matter... people will believe the parts that validate their own beliefs, and dismiss the parts that don't.