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    Re: WikiLeaks: Cuba banned Sicko for depicting 'mythical' healthcare system

    If it were shown in Cuba in January 2008, it would most likely have been sometime between the 1st and the 31st.
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    Re: WikiLeaks: Cuba banned Sicko for depicting 'mythical' healthcare system

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Dude it's Sandokan he spouts anti-Castro rhetoric for a living. Look at his post history it's all anti-Castro crap. Most of it isn't even true, and if you attempt to debate him he just covers his ears and runs away.

    I mean ffs he's quoting The Real Cuba website, which is one of the most hilariously dishonest anti-Castro sites I have ever seen.
    Yeah, according to the "official" Cuban Ministry of Propaganda ??? Right ??

    Have you been to Cuba ??

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    Re: WikiLeaks: Cuba banned Sicko for depicting 'mythical' healthcare system

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandokan View Post
    You too have omitted to answer the question of when the movie was shown in Cuba in January 2008. Please provide reliable sources of the theatrical showing in Cuba in January 2008.
    You kind of answered your own question... Are you looking for specific dates...? Because once a film has a theatrical release, it is shown on that date and a few more weeks before they stop playing it in theaters. You are being so disingenuous that it makes it appear as if you have never been to the movies.

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    Re: WikiLeaks: Cuba banned Sicko for depicting 'mythical' healthcare system

    rofl. So this is how pathetic WikiLeaks is.

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    Re: WikiLeaks: Cuba banned Sicko for depicting 'mythical' healthcare system

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    You kind of answered your own question... Are you looking for specific dates...? Because once a film has a theatrical release, it is shown on that date and a few more weeks before they stop playing it in theaters. You are being so disingenuous that it makes it appear as if you have never been to the movies.
    In other words, you haven’t be able to answer the question. Let try again.

    Can somebody provide reliable sources of the theatrical showing in Cuba of Sicko prior to the State department cable dated January 01, 2008?

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    Re: WikiLeaks: Cuba banned Sicko for depicting 'mythical' healthcare system

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandokan View Post
    In other words, you haven’t be able to answer the question. Let try again.

    Can somebody provide reliable sources of the theatrical showing in Cuba of Sicko prior to the State department cable dated January 01, 2008?
    No, because the opening of a documentary in a small country is not something you would find in the news. You have already been given sources that say Sicko was in fact shown in theatres in Cuba. Ignoring it only makes you more wrong.

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    Re: WikiLeaks: Cuba banned Sicko for depicting 'mythical' healthcare system

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandokan View Post
    In other words, you haven’t be able to answer the question. Let try again.

    Can somebody provide reliable sources of the theatrical showing in Cuba of Sicko prior to the State department cable dated January 01, 2008?
    Absence of proof is not proof of absence. Just 'cause Cuba doesn't publish the release dates of films on the internet, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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    Re: WikiLeaks: Cuba banned Sicko for depicting 'mythical' healthcare system

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandokan View Post
    … Can you provide the “simple facts” of when the movie was shown in Cuba in January 2008? It shouldn’t be difficult for you to provide reliable sources of the theatrical showing in Cuba in January 2008.
    While not precisely the information you requested, the Associated Press back in June, 2007 reported this story which does not suggest that the film was about to be banned in Cuba, far from it.

    Excerpted from “Moore's 'Sicko' gets nod from Cuba; Cuba health minister says documentary shows Cuba's 'human values'” BY ANDREA RODRIGUEZ, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS, The Daily News (NYC), Saturday, June 16th 2007, 4:00 AM
    Cuba's health minister said Friday that American filmmaker Michael Moore's documentary "Sicko" highlights the human values of the island's communist-run government.
    So, how could the U.S. Embassy cable seven months later claim that the documentary was banned in Cuba? And, as you know, just a few months after that, the film not only was shown in Cuba, but, was freely broadcast on television. It would seem the cable was wrong; intentional or not, clearly wrong.
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    Re: WikiLeaks: Cuba banned Sicko for depicting 'mythical' healthcare system

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    While not precisely the information you requested, the Associated Press back in June, 2007 reported this story which does not suggest that the film was about to be banned in Cuba, far from it.



    So, how could the U.S. Embassy cable seven months later claim that the documentary was banned in Cuba? And, as you know, just a few months after that, the film not only was shown in Cuba, but, was freely broadcast on television. It would seem the cable was wrong; intentional or not, clearly wrong.
    Please go back to page 6, post # 59. You will find the answer there. The cable doesn't "claim" that the documentary was banned. The leaked cable quotes an unidentified source that said it was banned. I haven’t said that it wasn’t shown, what I question was the date of the theatrical released previous to the TV showing.

    As for Moore’s sharp reply, I would like more hard data on those Sicko showings. The documentary Sicko has a duration of 123 minutes, and it premiere on the Cubavision Roundtable TV program of 60 minutes duration. The TV program format includes an introduction, the main subject and a round table discussion of it. This format will provide no more that 45 minutes in the most favorable circumstances for the main subject. When and where the theatrical showing occurred? How much and what part of it was shown on the TV program? How many regular Cubans saw it in its entirety and continue to see it? It is know that Moore play with the truth like silly putty, stretching and molding it to fit his agenda.

    The truth is that there are many movies and documentaries, due to the regime censorship, that aren’t shown on theaters or on TV in Dr. Castro’s island.

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    Re: WikiLeaks: Cuba banned Sicko for depicting 'mythical' healthcare system

    Michael Moore knew exactly what he was doing when he made that documentary. He was so obsessed by his partisan politics that telling the truth was never a part of his goals. He knew what was going on in Cuba under the Castros regime.

    Michael Moore exaggerates, exploit half-truths and tell bald faced lies. He doesn’t do it on principle but rather to gain notoriety, media attention and money, which in Moore’s case is twice as ridiculous, considering how he hates capitalism while enjoying its benefits.

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