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    Re: Store owner in critical condition after killing robbery suspects

    Picking up a gun to commit a violent crime at gunpoint (robbery) is a point that most criminals never make it to.
    What do you thing the percent of criminals is who don’t have a gun on them when the commit their crime of choice?

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    Re: Store owner in critical condition after killing robbery suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron River View Post
    What do you thing the percent of criminals is who don’t have a gun on them when the commit their crime of choice?
    There's a fair number that do, sure. Lots of drug-dealers, for instance, go armed mainly to defend themselves against other criminals who might want what they're holding. However, it is an order of magnitude worse when you're talking about a crime where they are brandishing the firearm openly at innocent persons, as is the case in armed robbery.

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    Re: Store owner in critical condition after killing robbery suspects

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    Doh!

    Well, I speak two languages.. so I'll just say I got confused.. lol
    What a coincidence. I am also bilingual. I am ignorant in at least 2 languages.
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    Re: Store owner in critical condition after killing robbery suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Glad this guy was able to defend himself, and I hope he makes a full recovery. If he didn't have a gun, there is no telling what could have happened. They could have just stole from him, or they could have killed him as well. It's best not to let the criminal choose wether or not you get to live.
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    Re: Store owner in critical condition after killing robbery suspects

    Lance Thomas might be getting himself some competition in this store owner.

    Bravo, sir, and may you have a speedy recovery.

    Edit: Btw, Duece, anyone shooting someone who is already threatening them with a gun is not escalating, they're defending themselves.
    Last edited by theangryamerican; 12-20-10 at 06:51 PM.
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    Re: Store owner in critical condition after killing robbery suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Some might ask what a local story is doing in the breaking news section. Well, it's here, and the reason is a valid one. The story here is that more people in the Houston area are beginning to apply a well-tested law enforcement technique that not only kills those who would rob them, but permanently removes the bastards from the streets, so they do not rob, or possibly kill, again. I am talking about, of course, the Second Amendment. Guns good. Scum dead. Taxpayer money not wasted. Scum had their trial, and their execution, at the hands of the man they were robbing. Poetic ****ing justice, and makes for a judicial system that is streamlined just the way I like it.

    Article is here.
    I fail to see how a gun-crazed nutjob killing three people and probably himself is in any way an endorsement of your 2nd Amendment, nor a righteous application of the rule of law.

    All this serves to show is that four people are dead because both sides of this equation were greedy, and appointed themselves judge, jury and executioner.

    Idiots, all four of them.



    To edit the post, however, I will say that the store-owner was, if possible to be as such, more in the right than the robbers, by any stretch of the imagination, and I do wish him a speedy recovery.
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    Re: Store owner in critical condition after killing robbery suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    I fail to see how a gun-crazed nutjob killing three people and probably himself is in any way an endorsement of your 2nd Amendment, nor a righteous application of the rule of law.

    All this serves to show is that four people are dead because both sides of this equation were greedy, and appointed themselves judge, jury and executioner.

    Idiots, all four of them.

    All right, I'll play your game. What would you have done in his shoes?
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    Re: Store owner in critical condition after killing robbery suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    All right, I'll play your game. What would you have done in his shoes?
    Shot them.

    I'm not all I want to be.

    He did what I would have done, and he did what most of us think was the acceptable solution to the situation.

    That doesn't make it right, nor legally justified.


    Now, that raises another question -- to what extent should your life be governed by your laws and society's morals? I could say more, and answer it myself, but hopefully, if I don't do so, we'll have more of a discussion.

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    Re: Store owner in critical condition after killing robbery suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Some might ask what a local story is doing in the breaking news section. Well, it's here, and the reason is a valid one. The story here is that more people in the Houston area are beginning to apply a well-tested law enforcement technique that not only kills those who would rob them, but permanently removes the bastards from the streets, so they do not rob, or possibly kill, again. I am talking about, of course, the Second Amendment. Guns good. Scum dead. Taxpayer money not wasted. Scum had their trial, and their execution, at the hands of the man they were robbing. Poetic ****ing justice, and makes for a judicial system that is streamlined just the way I like it.

    Article is here.
    At first I found myself agreeing with you, but I noticed that my feelings were based on righteousness... the feeling that we are right, and they are wrong.

    There is no one in this world who is pure good, everyone makes mistakes; just like there is no one who is pure evil in this world, and if you look hard enough, you will always find some good action that even the worst offenders have done in their lives.

    The three robbers... they didn't get to tell their story. We don't even know who these people were. Maybe one of them was robbing a store for the first time. They got killed over jewelery. Pieces of metal. I think, if anything, this story goes to show the madness of property ownership in our society... that THINGS are more important than LIVES. It's the very reason why people become criminals on the bottom rung of the ladder in the first place, because the system values things over the well being of people.

    Maybe just one of those robbers could have had a second chance at life. Maybe the system would have worked, and corrected his behaviour. Now we will never know... nor will he, because he is dead. He didn't even get a trial. He just got a bullet. Over pieces of metal. The store owner probably even had insurance. The robbers could have taken everything and he could have just re-acquired it again. Instead he reacted in fear, anger, hate, and perhaps even greed over his property.

    No one person should ever have the power to be judge, jury and executioner. If he survives his injuries, the store owner should be charged with triple homicide.

    LIVES should always be more important than THINGS. You let the robbers take everything. Your life is more important than stuff, and so is theirs.

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    Re: Store owner in critical condition after killing robbery suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Shot them.

    I'm not all I want to be.

    He did what I would have done, and he did what most of us think was the acceptable solution to the situation.

    That doesn't make it right, nor legally justified.


    Now, that raises another question -- to what extent should your life be governed by your laws and society's morals? I could say more, and answer it myself, but hopefully, if I don't do so, we'll have more of a discussion.
    The old addage says, "I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six."
    In my eyes, defending me or my family in a life threatening situation will always put me in the right. Legally, I may go to prison, but at least I stood between me and my loved ones when danger came a-knocking.
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