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    Sand berms didn't help with BP spill, experts say

    There is a saying, haste makes waste; Gov. Bobby Jindal pulled an expensive boner here.

    Gov. Bobby Jindal, who pushed the venture over the objections of scientists and federal agencies, has strongly defended it. And despite the commission's scathing report, he plans to move ahead with the project, though with some changes to make it more beneficial.

    In their stinging report, commission staff said they can "comfortably conclude that the decision to green-light the underwhelmingly effective, overwhelmingly expensive Louisiana berms project was flawed."

    Sand berms didn't help with BP spill, experts say


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    Re: Sand berms didn't help with BP spill, experts say

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    There is a saying, haste makes waste; Gov. Bobby Jindal pulled an expensive boner here.
    You are absolutely right, he should have done nothing...just like President Obama. There's only one problem...who knew the oil wouldn't make it to the coast line?

    Why MSNBC DID! Field Notes - Will oil deal final blow to besieged marshland? Oh, wait, they thought it'd make the coast line too.

    I mean seriously, are you going to fault the guy for taking action? So the berms were not as needed as once thought. Find me a source that said none of the oil would reach land. Oh, and in your own article it says the berms have a dual purpose of restoring the shore line and protecting the wildlife, so even if the oil doesn't/didn't reach land, the project is still an enviornmentalist/conservationists wet dream.
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    Re: Sand berms didn't help with BP spill, experts say

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    You are absolutely right, he should have done nothing...just like President Obama. There's only one problem...who knew the oil wouldn't make it to the coast line?

    Why MSNBC DID! Field Notes - Will oil deal final blow to besieged marshland? Oh, wait, they thought it'd make the coast line too.

    I mean seriously, are you going to fault the guy for taking action? So the berms were not as needed as once thought. Find me a source that said none of the oil would reach land. Oh, and in your own article it says the berms have a dual purpose of restoring the shore line and protecting the wildlife, so even if the oil doesn't/didn't reach land, the project is still an enviornmentalist/conservationists wet dream.

    I agree. Although not a supersmart thing to do ignoring most everyone..... but it makes sense to me. What IF the oil washed up on those beaches? Then again...... all your doing is extending the beach furthur out into the sea..... so IS that beneficial?

    BTW Obama did do things to try and help. Just not in a very logical way.
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    Re: Sand berms didn't help with BP spill, experts say

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
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    It is not hindsight when experts say it is a bad thing.. then it is stupidity.
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    Re: Sand berms didn't help with BP spill, experts say

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    It is not hindsight when experts say it is a bad thing.. then it is stupidity.
    So it didn't stop any oil, who cares? It wasn't tax payer money anyway, the money came from BP, and the report says that, though ineffective for it's primary purpose, the berms will help restore the coastline anyway.

    the commission said in its report. "From a long-term coastal restoration perspective, the berms may indeed be a 'significant step forward,' as Gov. Jindal has claimed, but they were not successful for oil spill response."
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    Re: Sand berms didn't help with BP spill, experts say

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    So it didn't stop any oil, who cares? It wasn't tax payer money anyway, the money came from BP, and the report says that, though ineffective for it's primary purpose, the berms will help restore the coastline anyway.
    Not the point. Point is the jackass Jindal was all over the Feds over this, using it as a political ploy and then the Feds finally caved after lots of pressure and now it turns out.. the Feds were right. And in the end, the tax payer will pay because when the US is successful in destroying BP via legislation and the company is bought up by an American company, then there will be less money to pay for damages.
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    Re: Sand berms didn't help with BP spill, experts say

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Not the point. Point is the jackass Jindal was all over the Feds over this, using it as a political ploy and then the Feds finally caved after lots of pressure and now it turns out.. the Feds were right. And in the end, the tax payer will pay because when the US is successful in destroying BP via legislation and the company is bought up by an American company, then there will be less money to pay for damages.
    The Feds were the jackasses, not Jindal. Check out some facts here, Jindal blasts BP commision, and see what ridiculous crap the state of Louisiana and Plaquemine Parish officials had to put up with and berms were one of the few solutions that Jindal was able to muster after Feds delayed the plans (or nixed other plans). Check out pictures of Barataria Bay marsh grasses that were contaminated with oil needlessly while the US Guvmint, led by the clueless Obama, used delay tactic after delay tactic. I have coworkers whose family worked on that half-assed effort by the Feds - they witnessed first-hand the waste and inefficiency of the Feds in this effort. And Bobby Jindal was supposed to do nothing... just like Obama! If the berms would have been erected sooner, they would have been more effective. Considering the predictions of most "experts", the berms would have been an asset had those dire predictions unfolded.

    I guess that Jindal should have just sat on his hands like our last governor, the liberal Democrat deer-in-the-headlights dumbass Blanco, did during and after hurricane Katrina! It really hurts you libs... ooh, I mean "Centrists"... when a conservative does the right thing!
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    Re: Sand berms didn't help with BP spill, experts say

    At least Jindal tried.

    Obama didn't seem to care (he even seemed to relish in it) other than to destroy American oil companies and leave all the oil for other countries to drill.

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    Re: Sand berms didn't help with BP spill, experts say

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Not the point. Point is the jackass Jindal was all over the Feds over this, using it as a political ploy and then the Feds finally caved after lots of pressure and now it turns out.. the Feds were right. And in the end, the tax payer will pay because when the US is successful in destroying BP via legislation and the company is bought up by an American company, then there will be less money to pay for damages.
    So the fact that what's being complained about did no harm, and is actually a good thing, is not the point? And I do sincerely doubt that the US government will be able to destroy the 4th largest company in the world.
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