View Poll Results: Should Michael Vick be allowed to own a dog?

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  • Absolutely

    15 34.88%
  • No way

    14 32.56%
  • I don't care

    11 25.58%
  • He should get 2 wives and start a cat fight

    2 4.65%
  • He should learn to fly, but would he end up in a dogfight again?

    1 2.33%
  • He should marry a real bitch

    2 4.65%
  • He should eat all his meals with dogs, with Alpo as main course

    4 9.30%
  • He should get shot by Snoop Dogg

    5 11.63%
  • He should be given to Scooby Doo as a Scooby Snack

    5 11.63%
  • Bring him to DP, and let Blackdog kick his ass

    9 20.93%
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    Re: Vick says he would like a pet dog; anger follows

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    Child Molestation can vary in degrees. Legally it is considered "Child Molestation" for a twenty year old to engage in sex with a 16 year old. Should THAT person go away for life? Or perhaps a child molestor that inappropriately touches a child on a playground. Yes, that person should be punished severely, but locked up in prison for life? No, not in my book.
    In my book, there doesn't seem to be much use for you in society if you see kids as sexually desirable. Today's molester in the playground that you want to treat so gently is tomorrows predator.

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    Re: Vick says he would like a pet dog; anger follows

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    In my book, there doesn't seem to be much use for you in society if you see kids as sexually desirable. Today's molester in the playground that you want to treat so gently is tomorrows predator.
    And that is why I said that they should be punished severely (Who said anything about treating them gently?). Are you suggesting that they should receive a life sentence? Execution?
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    Re: Vick says he would like a pet dog; anger follows

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    And that is why I said that they should be punished severely (Who said anything about treating them gently?). Are you suggesting that they should receive a life sentence? Execution?
    Probably not execution, although, in some extreme cases... Do you think anyone can ever learn to not see kids in a sexual way if they're predisposed to that. What kind of chance are you willing to take on sex offenders?

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    Re: Vick says he would like a pet dog; anger follows

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I'm guessing you also didn't live in an environment where dog fighting was normalized.
    Right, I forgot, nobody is ever actually responsible for anything they do.

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    Re: Vick says he would like a pet dog; anger follows

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Right, I forgot, nobody is ever actually responsible for anything they do.
    No, not at all. He should have been punished the way he was. I have no problem with that. But to say that he hasn't learned his lesson, and he will always want to fight dogs, is just inaccurate. He was brought up in an environment where dog fighting was normalized, and that no one told him otherwise. It was just another thing to do, it didn't mean he hated the dogs, he just saw them as a form of entertainment, and it is very reasonable to think that with him going through this ordeal that he has learned his lesson, and realizes the error in his ways. Now if he continues to fight dogs, I will agree with you, but Vick has shown by his actions that he has learned his lesson.
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    Re: Vick says he would like a pet dog; anger follows

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Probably not execution, although, in some extreme cases... Do you think anyone can ever learn to not see kids in a sexual way if they're predisposed to that. What kind of chance are you willing to take on sex offenders?
    There are people who have been successful in counseling. If someone commits a serious sexual offense on a child, then they should be locked away forever. If someone commits a minor touching....they should be punished severely, but I don't believe they should be treated the same as the person who commits an aggravate sexual assault on a child. I DO believe that they should be barred from being around children or places that children congregate after being released from a lengthy prison sentence..and they should be forced to participate in therapy and counseling.
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    Re: Vick says he would like a pet dog; anger follows

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    No, not at all. He should have been punished the way he was. I have no problem with that. But to say that he hasn't learned his lesson, and he will always want to fight dogs, is just inaccurate. He was brought up in an environment where dog fighting was normalized, and that no one told him otherwise. It was just another thing to do, it didn't mean he hated the dogs, he just saw them as a form of entertainment, and it is very reasonable to think that with him going through this ordeal that he has learned his lesson, and realizes the error in his ways. Now if he continues to fight dogs, I will agree with you, but Vick has shown by his actions that he has learned his lesson.

    Perhaps he has learned his lesson...which is why I'm all for giving him another chance at life. However...regardless of whether he learned his lesson, he forfeited his right to ever own another dog in my book. Drug addicts may learn their lesson, but you don't put drugs back in their hands to see whether they will abuse again.
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    Re: Vick says he would like a pet dog; anger follows

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    No, not at all. He should have been punished the way he was. I have no problem with that. But to say that he hasn't learned his lesson, and he will always want to fight dogs, is just inaccurate. He was brought up in an environment where dog fighting was normalized, and that no one told him otherwise. It was just another thing to do, it didn't mean he hated the dogs, he just saw them as a form of entertainment, and it is very reasonable to think that with him going through this ordeal that he has learned his lesson, and realizes the error in his ways. Now if he continues to fight dogs, I will agree with you, but Vick has shown by his actions that he has learned his lesson.
    He didn't just fight them, he drowned them and electrocuted them himself and there is no way you can prove that he didn't do all that with extreme pleasure. Seriously, what does it take to be so cold to their cries of pain, maybe even relish it? And we're supposed to believe that he just suddenly has empathy for them. One does not turn their thinking around at the drop of a hat like that.
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    Re: Vick says he would like a pet dog; anger follows

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    There are people who have been successful in counseling. If someone commits a serious sexual offense on a child, then they should be locked away forever. If someone commits a minor touching....they should be punished severely, but I don't believe they should be treated the same as the person who commits an aggravate sexual assault on a child. I DO believe that they should be barred from being around children or places that children congregate after being released from a lengthy prison sentence..and they should be forced to participate in therapy and counseling.
    Okay, I admit, this isn't unreasonable and is probably actually harsher than what actually happens to certain sex offenders now. You have made me curious. What do you think of lifetime sex offender regisration?

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    Re: Vick says he would like a pet dog; anger follows

    When it's normalized you think nothing of it. He has learned his lesson it seems, and I see no reason why he should have a dog. Seriously, the dog he would probably adopt won't be a fighting dog, and will probably be euthanized if he didn't take it in. I see no problem with this, now if he abuses animals again I will agree with you. But people deserve a second chance, and I see no reason why he shouldn't be able to have a dog.
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